Israel’s military has said it was highly likely its troops fired the shot that killed Ayşenur Ezgi Eygi, the American-Turkish woman killed at a protest in the occupied West Bank.
The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said her death was unintentional and expressed deep regret.
The statement came as Antony Blinken, the US secretary of state, called the killing of the 26-year-old last week “unprovoked and unjustified”.
Speaking on a diplomatic visit to London, Blinken told journalists that Eygi’s death showed the Israeli security forces needed to make fundamental changes to their rules of engagement.
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“Yeah, we killed her. We’d killher again if we could. Whatcha gonna do about it?”
The Biden-Harris administration will say they are troubled and then provide $3 billion more to Israel.
I just want to point out how interesting it is that this comment called it the “Biden-Harris administration.” Interesting.
…that’s what it is.
Just saying. That specific framing at this specific time? I know it’s a fairly common way of referencing the admin—for an NYT story. But it was just very, very telling for some random internet comment to call it that in reference to this situation at this time. It just seemed very much like showing the commenter’s hand. Subtle, but painfully apparent.
So you’re making up things in your mind and then attributing those things to the commenter?
Your comment says far more about you than it does anyone else. You make ‘jumping to conslusions’ seem like a child’s game.
Make no mistake - Trump would do that and more.
If both parties are for it, how can anyone be against it?
The country is more than a president.
The biggest change isn’t going to come from the top, it’s going to come from the bottom. Support local and state reps that share your values, they’re far more likely to get elected than a federal position, and have a much more direct impact on peoples daily lives (and ability to support reps at the federal level).
I live near the bottom, and I see a lot of anti Palestinian stuff, mostly pretending the Palestinians do not exist, with a random anti-Semitic accusation thrown it.
And it’s not just the democrats, I see this in many western nations. It’s a stain on many parties who speak many languages.
If the killings stopped today , this would be only a black mark against those involved. Something to get angry about by many. Accusing fingers could be pointed. Perhaps even reevaluation by some.
But we are only a quarter through the genocide. This will last months or years more. Many will be killed in the future. So this is an active crime scene. Those that will have fingers pointed at later are still doing harm now, and will do harm in the future.
Not just the high level politicians, but in all levels of each country. There is collective guilt , and that is not ended either
Ah, so might as well just revel in it instead of doing something to make the world a better place in the mean time.
Stop focusing so much on what you can’t change, and how horrible it is for you, and focus on what you can.
Yeah, but what if I’m only politically aware for half a year every 4 years? Voting for the president is all I can do! /s
Yet, there are articles specifically about Trump wanting Russia to win. Should we stop those articles because a country is more than the president?
The sad truth is, give us someone who does. Who stands a chance. Then and only then will that discussion matter. Till then, not making things abjectly worse is sadly the best option. And we can push to improve from there. As opposed to trying to push to improve from a worse position in 4 years time.
Who stands a chance.
First they came for the Palestinians and I said nothing, because I didn’t want to ruin anyone’s electoral chances.
First of all its ghoulishly disingenuous for you to conflate providing arms. Which is wrong I’m not justifying that. To actually killing people. That’s straight up empty virtue signaling and not solving or convincing anyone of anything.
I asked who stands a chance. And you quoted it without even answering it. Useless. Right now the only viable option other than R or D in the presidential campaign is a widespread general uprising. Which I’m all for. If you got one let’s go kiddo. But I got news for you. If you don’t. What you’re doing is empty virtue signaling that only helps the worst people around. And makes enemies of possible allies. Which is how I know your words are empty.
First of all its ghoulishly disingenuous for you to conflate providing arms. Which is wrong I’m not justifying that. To actually killing people.
You do know that if you provide a weapon with the knowledge that the person will use it to kill someone, you can get convicted for being an accessory to that murder, which entails the same criminal punishment?
So for normal crime it is absolutely considered to be on the same level
It is ghoulishly disingenuous to suggest that a nation making their 500th shipment of child-exploding munitions to a genocidal warlord is somehow less culpable.
Biden is like a negligent parent, letting his mentally disturbed 14-year-old have access to the family assault rifle. Maybe after the first shooting he could havd a credible defense. But by now Netanyahu is on his 2000th school shooting, and Biden is still providing weapons.
Biden might as well be shooting those Palestinian children himself, the blood is on his hands.
I asked who stands a chance.
The people who collect the most corporate PAC money, obviously. So these are the only people it is reasonable to support.
They will not exist so long as you vote for “lesser evil” genociders. Why would there be? You still vote for them! They don’t need to listen to you at all and will gladly continue the project that is in their overall material interest in supporting Israel. You show up in their databases as, “Likely Democratic voter” and so they send some volunteers to try to get you to vote and they ask you for money. That is how you are thought of, and I mean this literally. That is how they curate and use their information. The rest is PR for how to ensure you don’t take these looney anti-genociders too seriously.
There is no “push from there” without leverage. If they don’t do what you want, what are you going to do? With what power? If you mske a threat, why is it credible? We are kept docile and ineffective through electoral illogic that serves the interests of the existing political class and cannot imagine gaining or wielding power in any practical way.
I’ll tell you same as I told them. Unless you have a populist General uprising in your pocket. Then your rhetoric is empty. I’m 100% ready for a popular general non-leninist uprising. Let’s go. But I don’t have time or bandwidth for empty holier than thou virtue signaling. I actually want things to not get worse and possibly even make them better. Not enable the worst people among us.
Due to the very real and observable ratchet effect, the outcome of your strategy is that things actually get worse… just slightly slower than they otherwise would. Voting for the “lesser of two evils” will never, ever make things better. You need to take a risk and vote for a non-evil to even have a shot at making things actually better.
Not here to shit on your opinions, but populist upswell is what gave us the 2016 results. It just happened to be right wing populism.
And if you mean a more spicy uprising, well that’ll both make things worse and enable the worst amomg us.
Being “ready” means nothing, it is just a thought in your head. Praxis requires that you act. You aren’t ready for an uprising if you aren’t actually organizing towards one yourself. And I have yet to meet a successful revolutionary organizer that tries to sheepdog for literally genocidal Democrats.
I haven’t advocated for “doing nothing”, I have advocated against supporting genocide from both a moralizing and electorally strategic angle. I choose these angles because it is the language most people will understand and because the propaganda that I oppose in the process teaches people to give up leverage and cheerlead, which is literally disempowering.
If people want recommendations on something positive to do, I would recommend joining the Uncommitted Movement if you prefer electoralism. If you are interested in politics that also extends beyond electoralism, I would be happy to provide advice on any local groups and reading materials.
What is the logic for supporting 99% Hitler when you could actually choose to work against 99% Hitler and Hitler himself? This is genocide, not a marginal tax bracket you can lesser evil about. The systematic destruction of a people is as bad as it gets, generally speaking.
If you support this and tell other people to vote for it, you are complicit.
The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said her death was unintentional and expressed deep regret.
We’re Sorry
what they said was. we didnt mean to murder that one. it was one of the other unarmed protesters we meant to murder. The other one was only Palestinian so chill… they dont matter remember!
Pretty much they mean “we say sorry if you keep letting us do it”.
Now they will know if they can get away with it and subsequently kill more international peace activists to push the remaining ones out, so they can go back to murdering Palestinians without holding back.
Didn’t they already kill those World Kitchen aid workers? They already know they can get away with it.
its called terrorism…
Hey… what’s a little murder between geopolitical allies of convenience…
Fuck this “war”. We are so far gone it’s deeply disturbing.
“Yeah, in fact that was probably Steve, crazy mother fucker is always shooting into crowds thinking he sees Hamas”.
"Man I really wish Steve would stop doing that!
Anyway, here you go Steve I loaded a few more magazines for you, try not to hit innocents this time haha"
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