We kind of did create israel in utah. But for people who thought Jesus came over to America with the pilgrims and that they have magic underwear that will shield them from harm rather than for the people who thought that their God told them to cut part of their kids’ penises off, they couldn’t eat shellfish, and used to commit genocides on the reg but has inexplicably stopped for the last couple thousand years or so.
Judging by the downvotes, a lot of Lemmitors have no idea how the world works. Just living in the Marvel Cinematic Universe—must be nice.
Counter productive and hypocritical to put people into convenient groups like that to shield your opinions against any form of criticism. Well done, you’ve earned a block.
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Because the Mormons took the land from the natives ‘first’.
You just invented mormons again
“After a long and exhaustive investigation we found that we did nothing wrong”
There have been continual problems in the middle east for thousands of years before the USA existed.
Yeah it’s all the fault of those damn Egyptians constantly fighting with Hittites! This does absolve USA and Israel, see?
Shiites and Sunnis have been fighting each other for the last 1400 years
We are not living thousands of years ago tho.
Missing a few flags there.
The UK def missing.
The vast majority of earths problems can be traced back to the brits. Including America.
British financiers who turned reasonable banking practices into speculative stock market bullshit, which created our “endless growth” economy and basically necessitated the natural resources colonialism brought in
This is a shit shitpost.
Hasn’t the middle east been around for like 30x as long as the US has though
US is not free of blame of course but it was the colonial powers that ruled the region who intentionally started the fire.
That area has been the subject of war and destruction since it was first settled thousands of years ago. The colonial powers and later the US didn’t help but let’s not act like that area was ever anything but an ongoing war.
4,000 years according to the Bible.
Same as the moon then.
Well too be fair, Lawrence of Arabia tapped into existing resentment up forment his revolt
There’s always been differing interests in the middle east, whether it’s religious, ethnic or something else. To say otherwise takes away from the agency of the people living there
Utah? We should have created it in Germany. We were already partitioning the country, they started the Holocaust which necessitated a Jewish homeland, and most of the people who would move to Israel were from Europe and used to its climate.
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Yep, shoulda just done this
That said the zionist movement predates WW2, and the balfour declaration is one of the major culprits, so carving out half of england would’ve also been a solution.
Jokes aside if it was only about having a safe space for the jewish they would have taken the Jewish Autonomous Oblast but they wanted that specific region for historical reasons and that is why they would have rejected the South German State of Israel the same way they ultimately rejected the Jewish Autonomous Oblast and by shrinking the German State (East and West combined compared to the Weimar Republic) to 1/3 of their previous size you would effectively end up with some hybrid form of the Palestine problem and the Donbass problem.
Personally I would have chosen an island like Sardegna where random invasions from your neighbours are unlikely but I think at the end they’d still have resettled Palestine even if you gave them the whole of Britain.
Half is maybe too much, but a portion of Bavaria bordering Austria and Czechoslovakia would make sense. With a piece of Danube too. Looks nice and useful for transportation of goods.
God didn’t give the Jews Utah, they got from the Nile in Egypt to the Euphrates in Iraq. So say the magic scrolls.
Which should pretty much be understood as the Zionist goal to claim as the lands of Israel. They will not stop until they have it. They will keep doing incremental land grabs after wars that they goad others into starting, as they have done with Palestine.
Regardless of whether the magic scrolls were ever the reason, they aren’t now, at least not for many Jews. Most Jews aren’t even really religious. The magic scrolls are a rationalization, an excuse, not a reason. The reason is Western settler-colonialism.
It would be nice to see the genocidal religions being squarely blamed rather than the nations that are infested with them.
hint: its all of them
ahh yes the settler colonialism religion
Why not Germany?
