Disclaimer: I know the flag looks like shit. I didn’t really try and make a well done, symmetric n**i flag. The entire point is to illustrate the general intent, not to make a symmetric “asshole flag”.
Edit: the sample size isn’t that big yet, but around 20% (19.51% as of this edit) of downvotes is definitely uncannily aligned with the average percentage of far right voters… (I’d show data from the US too, but you guys haven’t yet learned how to count to three in politics… So data is severely lacking.)
It took me far to long to realize this was mocking, and not actually legitimately the new logo.
Which says a lot about Musk, i think.
There is another flavour of right wing out there. Also Xorg is a little old, but it’s not that bad.
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This is dumb as fuck. There’s so many things to make fun of Musk for and you need to resort to Godwinning? That’s not only unfunny but it reduces that validity of your complaints against the guy who deserves to be flamed because your hyperbolic shouting and claiming everybody you disagree with is a nazi discredits your position immediately.
Yeah, Musk sucks. Yeah the X is dumb. Did it need to be photoshopped into a Nazi flag to be described as dumb? Nope, the entire rest of the site has been hating on this guy without needlessly Godwinning.
I don’t think your outrage is founded. I this case, musk has a clear personal tilt towards eugenics/natalism, his formative years were in apartheid South Africa, his businesses are in court for creating racially hostile/segregated workspaces and many twitter accounts outright stating Nazi sympathy and promotion were unbanned and boosted when he took over and decided that was a needed change.
You speak with many !!! but I don’t think you’ve actually thought out your position. This is more of a gut response you had chambered to any nazi accusations - this one isn’t a home run “smoking gun”, but the accusation definitely has some merit.
It’s outrageous that we’ve gotten to the point where the only thing we can do is shout at each other. There are no civil discussions anymore. I walk into a thread like this, speak my peace, get insulted and do some insulting. Ultimately it’s not productive for anyone, because nobody is convincing each other of anything, they’re just yelling labels and names at each other.
When everybody is super, nobody is.
When everybody is a nazi, nobody is.
When everybody is a communist, nobody is.
Shouting these terms has basically lost all meaning.
You can’t “oh I guess everyone is a Nazi then!” when we’re discussing actual nazis.
It just makes you look like a silly little bean.
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It is known by now that Musk sympathizes with many alt-right figures and actively uses his position to censor people on Twitter.
I would not agree that Twitter has become some nazi site, but it can be clearly seen that nazi ideas are more welcome now than before the whole Musk takeover.
Twitter was always a cesspool, and regardless of if the majority of opinions are left or right leaning, it’s a toxic environment no matter who is at the head of the hydra.
Prior to the Musk takeover it was a leftist echo chamber, and there was all kinds of witch hunting and cancellations based on groupthink.
I don’t think either extremes should be given a platform, and all I see on Twitter is that Musk leveled the playing field so that both sides get to shout as much vitriol as they want.
I think you need to take a step away from whatever bullshit you’re engaging with online.
I had a friend who would became obsessed with knowing everything about the alt-right. He started seeing false dogwhistles. If someone sent him a message with 👌he would assume they’re a Nazi.
I think Elon is a prick who caters to the right of politics, but I don’t think he’s a Nazi or a fascist. Every time the left becomes too hyperbolic about who is a Nazi, the right uses that as ammunition.
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This is the hyperbole I’m talking about. This is a metaphor. All metaphors break down when you start looking for discrepancies.
Maybe I don’t see a problem with sitting down at a table with 9 Nazis because they’re friendly with me and I’m curious about why they believe they’re right (and maybe I can use the Socratic method to make them question their beliefs). That doesn’t make me a Nazi.
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Lol I’m actually very far left, and self identify as a communist. How would 9 Nazis being polite to me, make me a Nazi?
Is Daryl Davis a Nazi for befriending Nazis?
The main difference is that when Daryl Davis is done with them, they aren’t Nazis anymore. He’s actively working to better the world, one person at a time.
Elon Musk sits with Nazis and then does nothing to get them to change. No, he just gives them a louder bullhorn.
Elon sucks and I’m glad he is destroying twitter, but being obsessed with “X” because he is a moron who thinks X is cool doesn’t mean that the new twitter logo is a nazi logo. Additionally if you put literally any monochromatic logo on a red field within a white circle it will kind of look like a Nazi flag. Stop being intellectually lazy.
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God, people like you are so annoying. Maybe Elon just is just a dumbass who likes the letter ‘X’. Not everything has to be a conspiracy. Go touch grass.
the wooosh with him was so strong that I think it provided 3 days of clean, green energy to all of europe.
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This comment is a perfect microcosm of smug rudeness. You want to know why people are running to the extremes? It’s because you treat people like shit and then expect them to agree with your ideology when you’ve berated them and belittled them for disagreeing. It’s not a conversation, it’s not a discussion, it’s just insulting.
You want to know why people are running to the extremes?
People joining the far-right has nothing to do with white supremacism or the institutionalized worship of authoritarianism, nationalism or militarism … it’s all because someone made a meme that hurt someone’s feels.
It all adds up. The reason these people flock to the far right is because they don’t see any other options. They’re lonely, sad, with little to no support networks. The far right preys on people like that to convert them to their cause. I remember when it started happening in World of Warcraft. It’s totally changed the entire landscape of the gaming community. It definitely doesn’t help when the other side is constantly name-calling. I certainly have a hard time reasoning with somebody who’s already made up their mind and started hurling insults.
The reason these people flock to the far right is because they don’t see any other options.
Yeah… because they’ve been indoctrinated into accepting the right-wing view of the world since birth - after all, we are all “westerners” here, aren’t we? We are “democratic” (which we’re not), we are “civilized” (which we’re not), we are “free” (which we’re not), we are “non-racist” (which we’re pretty damn obviously not) and we are “individualist” (which, again, we’re not). You can blame the memers and the people calling nazis nazis all you want… but they are not the people responsible for laying the groundwork that allows right-wing ideology to flourish and fester. That’s something that is built into white - oops, I meant to say “western” - society. That is why they are so easily triggered into supporting right-wing politics.
And then we haven’t even started talking about all the wealth and privilege that is funding all of this right-wing ideology - but sure… let’s blame memes.
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The problem is that your radar is broken and you are flagging everybody as a Nazi. That’s not productive and I would argue it detracts from most of your messaging. You keep throwing around terms like “intellectual deficiency” and then wonder why people are rejecting your premises.
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What’s a n**i flag? Do you have some disability that keeps you from typing words you don’t like?
