Trump’s former vice president also called the administration’s “anti-weaponization” fund “deeply offensive.”
Former Vice President Mike Pence said Sunday that President Donald Trump’s second administration has “departed” from traditional conservative principles.
Pence, who served as Trump’s vice president from 2017 to 2021, told NBC News’ “Meet the Press” that the administration is no longer committed to “the conservative agenda that has defined the Republican Party since the days of Ronald Reagan, and before that an agenda of American leadership, limited government, free market economics, the right to life.”
LOL.
ROTFLMAO, even.
Fucking conservatives always pull this No True Conservative bullshit when a con’s poll numbers start to flag…
Because just like it is with Communists, conservatism can never fail, it’s just that people fail conservatism.
This claim that so-and-so has failed conservatism in some way is as predictable as the tides.
Yeah, it’s always just that we need MORE of it, then things will be great! For reals, this time! Tax cuts and deregulation, just gotta keep doing it, hasn’t ever worked yet and things have gotten progressively worse doing it, but just hang in there, one more ® president and recession/depression, and it’ll turn around!
Says the completely disingenuous asshole that literally helped ushered in this racists disgrace of a party.
Sorry, not sorry Pence.
You’ll forever be the guy with a fly on his head.
Not really. He’s all about oppressing minorities and women, siphoning government money for their friends, and trying to impoverish the government (“Starve the Beast”, a specific tactic since Reagan, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starve_the_beast ) such that it cannot provide a social safety net. He’s just a conservative incapable of hiding behind the mask.
You still think they had them?
Ohh Mikey, when did Lumpty Trumpty departed from conservative principles? Was it when Lumpty Trumpty came done on the escalator and immediately started saying racist shit? Was it when Trumpty was caught on video claiming about sexually assaulting women? Or was it when the racist and sexist comments picked up? Was it the breaching of the constitutional rights?
probably when trump sent that mob to hang him?
He’s wrong, of course. Trump is the purest expression of conservative principles we’ve ever seen.
Reactionary, exclusionary, hateful. What higher conservative principles are there right?
That’s all big tent stuff. If you really look at the core, foundational, pillar of conservatism- it’s protectionism. The “fuck you I got mine,” principle. Ensuring the status quo for wealth holders.
That would fall under exclusionary. But you’re not wrong. Sad thing is they lie to their voters and tell them that they will be part of the in group. As they proceed to exclude them over and over and over again.
@Eldritch (Sexual) slave trader ?
Not all of them, but far too many to be a coincidence for sure.
Corrupt?
Trump says all the quiet things out loud. The things you’d hear at the country club and black tie events. Things that Mike Pence thinks but won’t say out loud, even though most of his conservative brethren have been since Trump made it acceptable.
He’s such a fascinating paradox. He’s pure id, so he lies constantly, but he also constantly blurts out the truth because he’s too stupid to know when it’s a smart time to lie and when it’s a smart time to shut the fuck up.
He’s banking on, and probably mildly correct, that there’s voters who want to go back to that era and like MTG, want to distance themselves from Trump and his methods but not the power/results. He’ll never get anywhere though. They’ve sold their souls 3x to support Trump and will again rather than risk splitting conservatism and creating openings for opposition to win.
Trump brand conservatism appeals to everyone from Boomers yearning for a return to the privilege of mid-century America to Gen Zs who think mid-century America was the Golden Age it’s said to be and that they’ve been denied. Nobody wants a polite, stick-up-his-ass, Victorian sensibility patriarch that has the personality of wet cardboard.
Took “I got mine” to the next level.
He’s unpopular, which Republicans will insist means he’s not conservative enough
He’s the purest representation of right-wing principles we have seen. That’s not the same thing as conservative. A conservative position opposes all change - including change to the right. So I’d say that Pence is right.
If anything, the Democrats are the more conservative party right now, and the MAGA Republicans are trying to move the country further to the right. I still don’t think that a conservative position is good, but it’s better than a fascist position.
This has never been what “conservative” means in practice. You can go right back to the father of Conservativism, Edmund Burke, and you’ll find a consistent pattern of being gleefully willing to destroy and tear down anything that gets in the way of their core goal; preventing the enfranchisement of the disenfranchised.
preventing the enfranchisement of the disenfranchised
And as a corollary of that, staunchly defending unaccountable privilege. It wasn’t just the lower orders getting a voice that scared them, it was the possibility that rule of law and meritocracy would disrupt their long-running gravy trains.
No, that’s just a lie conservatives tell to whitewash their abhorrent worldview.
This loser enabled all of it and only got cold feet when the mob came for him.
Now we’re supposed to sympathize with his milquetoast denials? Show me a shred of actual resistance to the fascist hell you helped create.
I don’t care if the MAGAs do hang Mike Pence.
It’s also thanks to this asshole that we have a lot of the conservative federal judges that we do across the country. Fuck this Christian Nationalist piece of shit.
He waited for months after J6 to see which way the wind was blowing, never forget that
It’s weird that it took you so long to speak out. They tried to hang you Mike. You’re a spineless soulless amoral fuck regardless, but dude, come the fuck on
I watched him on Meet The Press this morning, and what an out of touch loser he is. He still thinks that people are going to rally behind his return to Conservative Principles, not understanding that the Republican Party no longer exists. That was just the larval stage, before they morphed into their final form - MAGA.
You’d think he’d understand that, since on the day they made that metamorphosis - January 6, 2021 - he was there, and was a prime target of the MAGA Mob.
Instead of being vocally in conflict with MAGA, he just trotted out out the tired old conservative tropes about radical left liberals, Socialism, gender politics, etc. whining about how that’s what Dems are all about, when it’s MAGAs like him that won’t stop talking about it. Dems want to talk about crushing MAGA, health care, affordability, etc., but MAGAs don’t want to talk about the real issues Dems want to talk about, MAGAs only want to discuss their fake issues.
This guy came off as another lost old school conservative, who still thinks they can go back to the good old Reagan days. Just go back to the country club and drink highballs with Newt Gingrich and John Cornyn, and whine about how the younger generation doesn’t respect them.
He’s just noticing this now? He didn’t notice this when a mob of them erected a scaffold, carried signs that stated their intention to hang him, and stormed the building he was in?
I think those might actually be conservative principles at work…
He was actually super proud. Reminded him of the good old days.
It’s like all thosecronies who only came out against him after Jan 6…most of which flipped back into his court by 2023
I dunno. They still seem pretty racist to me.
Has departed… Bitch, it never had those values, you gotta have values to depart from them.
I think they had them perfectly, just now some of the supporters realized they don’t want to be part of sunken ship.
wow, took this long AFTER HIS GOONS RIOTED TO HANG YOU to make that connection mike?
goddamn I do believe pence may be dumber than trump.
He was riding the clown train hoping it would put him front and center when it failed. Not a horrible plan. But it didn’t go that way and now he will go down in history as one who assisted in bringing it to fruition.
he let jesus take the wheel and stopped even thinking
They have departed from any kind of principles. The administration is focused on corruption and grifting.
