• HurlingDurling@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Maybe I’m ignorant, but isn’t hammas a terrorist group? If so fuck them, but keep Palestine alone.

    • Zorque@kbin.social
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      1 year ago

      Hamas is a response to a repressive Israeli regime. Even if you “wipe out” Hamas, another group will just fill its place.

      It’s not a matter of just getting rid of the “bad guys” and hoping the forces of good win the day… It requires a monumental shift not only in the treatment of the Palestinians, but in the entire political structure of the area. Which is neither happening easily nor quickly. And sadly, there’s not a whole lot we can do to help the situation.

      • jet@hackertalks.com
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        1 year ago

        The Palestinian people have to see a better option than extremist violence. People will take what they think is their best incentive. If they have no hope, if they feel like they have no representation, then they choose violence. So we have to give the people a better option than Hamas

          • jet@hackertalks.com
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            1 year ago

            Sure. What you say is true. Everyone responds to their incentives.

            There is a asymmetry in this scenario though, the Israeli government has 100% military control over the entire country.

            I don’t know the solution to the scenario, but if we keep repeating previous patterns, we’re going to get previous outcomes.

    • Vub@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      I don’t know if you know this but Hamas is controlling the administration of the Gaza Strip. They are a terrorist organisation but also the de facto local government.

      • HurlingDurling@lemm.ee
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        1 year ago

        Ok, but destroying Gaza and killing all the inhabitants is still genocide and a war crime.

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          1 year ago

          Hamas really killed themselves with their murders, Israels response will be brutal and long. But they will not kill “everyone” as you say, they are bombing Hamas targets and many of them are located in civilian spots. It will not stop Israel after these terror attacks and everyone knew this beforehand. Israels actions before have been exactly the same.

          Hopefully Hamas will be completely eradicated and the Palestinians will reject these fascist leaders from now on, for betraying their trust and leading their people to even more suffering.

          It is all just tragic and awful.