Quote: “We must teach Israel a lesson, and we will do it again and again. The Al-Aqsa Deluge [the name Hamas gave its 7 October onslaught - ed.] is just the first time, and there will be a second, a third, a fourth. Will we have to pay a price? Yes, and we are ready to pay it. We are called a nation of martyrs, and we are proud to sacrifice martyrs.”

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    And THIS is the reason why the Hamas military and political structures have to get destroyed.

    Where are all the people that are screaming that Israel should make peace right now? Make peace with WHOM?

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      Maybe instead of attacking civilians they should target… checks notes Hamas?

      I havent heard a single person say that fighting Hamas is a bad thing. Not everyone in Palestine supports or is a member of Hamas, but the more you indiscriminately kill and maim, their numbers are likely to swell.

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        Maybe Hamas should… checks notes not hide out in refugee camps and use refugees as human shields?

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          If you think its okay to indiscriminately bomb civilians because there might be some enemies hiding amongst them, then we have nothing to talk about. That’s a fucked up way of thinking.

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          Ah, it’s perfectly fine to bomb hospitals and refugee camps because one or two Hamas terrorists are in them, then. Cause massive innocent casualties is an acceptable loss when you have the chance at killing a terrorist leader.

          In before “BuT thE Us DoES it AlL tHe tiME”

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            I don’t think they did it because they had the chance to kill Hamas militants. They actually did kill Hamas militants, who in cowardly and illegal fashion used refugees as human shields.

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              As opposed to the completely legal and justifiable killing of innocent civilians for the chance at killing purported Hamas fighters.

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                Yes. War is horrific, which is why international laws of war exist. Hamas commits war crimes as its standard procedure, while Israel is forced into impossible situations to defend itself legally. The reason conducting military operations out of civilian places like schools and hospitals is a war crime is because doing so turns those locations into legitimate military targets.

                If you don’t want your refugee camp to be a military target, don’t conduct military operations from the middle of it. Clearly, Hamas got the result it wanted: Dead refugees that it could spin as martyrs to fuel anti-Israel support in the international community.

                You’ve bought the terrorists’ propaganda hook, line, and sinker.

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      As we speak israel just bombed an ambulance convoy full of injured people. And then, not long later, the indonesian hospital in gaza was damaged even more by the israelis.

      Where are the people screaming that Palestinians should make peace right now? Make peace with WHOM?

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        There’s no peace for the region so long as the Palestinian identity continues to exist. Everyone knows it, none less than the Israelis.

        Even if Israel were truly of mind to “make peace”, far too many Palestinians remember the deals reneged on from the previous generation between Israel and the PLO. The origin story of how al-Mujama transitioned into the militant Hamas. When the best possible treatment Palestinians could get from Israel was wage slavery, settlement, total dependence on foreign aid, and not even having the right to travel freely. Second-class residents, not even citizens, in their own homelands. And the idea that anyone would have more faith in Benny than Peres or Shamir is sort of laughable.

        The outcome of this may as well be carved in stone. Israel will do to Palestine as was done to so many other victims of colonialism. Corner and oppress the people who were of the land until none of their childrens’ children can remember a time when it was their land. Turn any injustices into notes from history, to be discussed and studied but never repaired.

        But hey, the planet is dying either way I guess.

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            That’s not what the word “apologist” means.

            To apologize for something is to defend it. It’s indefensible. Israel is going to wipe these people out, systematically, just as they’ve been doing since before nearly any of us were alive. There’s only one thing Israel could do to lead to lasting peace in the region and that is give back the land. Anyone who thinks that is going to happen is delusional.

            Anything less than returning people to their homelands is just going to lead to continuing violent resistance.

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              I guess, but arguing that they only have the (false) dichotomy of committing genocide or disappearing is pretty close to it.

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      What in the name of manufactured outrage! This guys interview was from 10 days ago and these lunatics keep trotting it out every time they need to distract from whatever inexcusable act of terrorism they committed in the past 6 hours. Whats even the point? It just makes this manufactured outrage machine that much more obvious.

      Here @dumdum666, why don’t you explain to me the legitimacy of Israel murdering 42 members of the same family the other day, including 4 doctors and bunch of children. That’s only from 3 days ago, so it’s 3x more relevant than the shit popsicle y’all are trying to sell everyone as chocolate.

      Your arguments are garbage and your rhetoric is that of a shameful tool that would see murders set loose upon the world if it’s for “your side.” You reek of hypocrisy.

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        This guys interview was from 10 days ago…

        I thought that thumbnail pic looked familiar. Thank you for the context! This is very important!

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        What in the name of manufactured outrage!

        The MASTER peddler of manufactured outrage, accuses legitimate news outlets like Times of Israel to manufacture outrage? so this News Outlet is only good enough for you, when it reports about Palestinians being mistreated by Israelis in the Westbank, but not when it reports about an official Interview a Hamas official gave, that is detrimental for your INSANE narrative?

        From the article:

        Hamouda and the family say it was an Israeli airstrike.

        No one was able to confirm this yet.

        Your arguments are garbage and your rhetoric is that of a shameful tool that would see murders set loose upon the world if it’s for “your side.” You reek of hypocrisy.

        I don’t seek your approval or that of your Hamas Terrorist friends. Whatever I write is for the other people that have to read your stupid shit.

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          The story is 10 days old and I still haven’t gotten a good pet name from you. Thanks for taking all that time to say absolutely nothing here. Also, if you’re making me the master does that mean you wanna be my little boy slave? Can we work this into the nickname?