• TJD@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    So you agree it’s broad then? Cool. They should either pass individual ballot measures or fuck off. Just crying “rights” isn’t an excuse to sidestep good legislatige process

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      1 year ago

      Ballot measures are part of the legislative process. It’s broad because it needs to be. Reproductive rights touch on a lot of areas. It’s not a severable principle. It needs to be broad. The idea that it is overbroad is wrong.

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        1 year ago

        It’s entirely severable. The article clearly listed multiple distinct topics. Measures could easily be made for each separate one.

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          1 year ago

          It could be, but it wouldn’t make sense as it wouldn’t serve the purpose of the ballot initiative. It’s all based on the same legal principle that the government does not have the right to infringe on an individual’s rights to reproductive control.

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            1 year ago

            I could make an entire encyclopedia of law just under one incredibly generic principle like you’re doing. It doesn’t make it into a specific policy just because it shares a theme.

            • ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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              1 year ago

              Look at other ballot measures, like weed legalization. Those simple principles sprung an encyclopedia of laws too. ANY significant change to government policy will do that. Complexity is certainly not a reason to ignore the will of the voters.

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                1 year ago

                Jesus you’re fucking dense. Yes, there’s an encyclopedia of laws to be passed. No, it doesn’t justify forcing them all into one big yes/no

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                  1 year ago

                  You can keep insisting that it’s an “encyclopedia of laws” but that doesn’t make it true. Ballot initiatives are to determine the public stance on the issues. The public wants reproductive rights. It doesn’t matter if you describe it in those 2 words or a thousand words. It means the same thing.

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                    1 year ago

                    So then vote on each specific law individually and stop throwing a fit if its all stuff you’re confident in. Simple as.