• Zoolander@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    7 months ago

    If you want to watch something enough to pirate it, it has value.

    Everything else you said is a dishonest argument that you would not accept for your own time, work, and effort. The mere fact that an idea is materialized into something more than an idea invalidates the crux of your argument. An idea is just that. An idea materialized into reality, even an intangible reality, is still more than the idea itself.

      • Zoolander@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        7 months ago

        Why? I have no need for synonyms when that world is perfectly clear and accurate for what is happening.

        You being pompous and overly verbose makes you look bad.

    • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      7 months ago

      If you want to watch something enough to pirate it, it has value.

      I haven’t claimed it doesn’t have value. I’ve only challenged your implication that ‘value’ and ‘market extractive value’ are -or ought to be- in balance. If you can acknowledge that not everything that has ‘value’ has a commensurate ‘market value’, then you should be able to see that a piece of digital media can have ‘value’ but doesn’t necessarily have a commensurate ‘market value’.

      Demand is only representative of market value where supply can be said to be reasonably restricted, and if supply needs to be artificially restricted in order to justify it’s market value then the circumventing of that restriction can’t really be said to be ‘stealing’ in the moral or ethical sense of the word.

      • Zoolander@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        7 months ago

        It can if you’re ingesting the product. If you’re ingesting the end product then value and market extractive value are the same. Either you think it’s worth the price that the creator is asking or you don’t. If you don’t, then that doesn’t mean you’re entitled to view it for free just because you think they’re asking too much. It means you don’t get to watch it and they don’t get to be paid for it.

        Everything else you said is irrelevant. The supply is the creator, not the product that the creator made. If they can’t make a living creating those products, then those products go away. Whether you want to claim that’s artificial or not is completely moot.

        • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.social
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          7 months ago

          The supply is the creator, not the product that the creator made.

          Wut? I thought we abolished slavery? The fuck are you talking about?

          Whether you want to claim that’s artificial or not is completely moot.

          Lol, only if by ‘moot’ you mean ‘foundational’. All you’ve said so far is, ‘it’s stealing because that’s just the way it is’.

          Everything else you said is irrelevant.

          You’ve said this a couple times now, is this like some kind of safe word? ‘I don’t like your reasoning so I’ll just say it’s irrelevant’. LMAO.