Hi everyone! Since I was absolutely fucked by Skiff (thank fuck I didn’t pay for it) I’m looking for a new email provider :) I’m not sure I like how proton is transforming into a full on suit, I only need email. Any other recommendations or is proton my only choice really?

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      9 months ago

      You can use Proton Mail Bridge to set up SMTP/IMAP with your email app of choice. Obviously, you’re still stuck with using the bridge app on your device in order to get it working.

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        9 months ago

        Waiting for the day their business team devices the bridge is too much freedom you should get all locked-in.

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          9 months ago

          If that were to happen, nothing is stopping users from exporting their emails elsewhere.

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            If that were to happen, nothing is stopping users from exporting their emails elsewhere.

            Yet. You’re delusional, nothing is stopping people at gmail to move to another providers, yet they stay. And trust me gmail has a much better export and supports IMAP.

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                9 months ago

                Obviously not, but just don’t push proton. They’re a company that resorts to predatory tactics and has zero respect for their users.

                For what’s worth Lavabit (back before Snowden) had much higher standards than Proton when it comes to privacy and still supported open protocols like IMAP and SMTP. What Proton is doing is pushing for vendor lock-in at any possible point so you’re stuck with what they deem acceptable because it’s easier for them to build a service this way and makes more sense from a business / customer retention perspective.

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      9 months ago

      They support IMAP though their bridge but you will have to be on a paid plan.

      The free plan is pretty terrible anyways so if you actually want to use proton you will have to pay.

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        9 months ago

        Yes and you can’t run a bridge on anything and they might discontinue it at any time and you’ll become hostage. So much for self-hosting, independence and open-source solutions.

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          Yes and you can’t run a bridge on anything

          You can run the bridge on Windows, Linux and macOS. I wish that they had an Android app but I suspect that the aggressive power management on Android might make it a lot harder to implement in a nice way.

          they might discontinue it at any time and you’ll become hostage.

          There is absolutely no indication that that will happen. Remember that only the paid plans have IMAP and Proton is essentially held hostage by their subscribers since they are their only income source. Their community would be very angry if they dropped support.

          So much for self-hosting, independence and open-source solutions.

          This has nothing to do with self-hosting. You are literally paying someone for hosting your email.

          I agree that the lack of normal IMAP support is annoying. But it’s a side effect to their encryption which is a good thing.

          And it’s not like proton is alone with this problem.

          Tota doesn’t even seem to have a bridge app. Fastmail changes extra for IMAP.