Is what I said. We were talking about public grudge against megacorps, how Hamas, Wikileaks or Anonymous factors in the topic, Im really not sure.
And I also don’t really see how I’m strawmanning. I was maybe being faceticious. By all means correct me if I’m wrong.
Walmart raising wages might be seen as a successfull protest, but walmart is still exploiting unskilled labour for terrible wages, just not terrible enough for people to huff and puff over. What actually changed about walmart?
Big oil is still just as horrible, we are still plunging head first into full scale climate catastrophe by the end of the century in pursuit of profits. What has actually changed?
If you want to call this an example of succesfull public action with sizeable long term implications, I guess we have to agree to disagree. The way I see it these companies just do the bare minimum to muffle the loud voices and just wait until the collective memory moves on to the next thing on the news cycle.
Delusional if you think people easily forget grudges against big companies lmao
That is precisely what you said. And if we want to double back to your reply, both anonymous and wikileaks are largely forgotten as well.
Blizzard might have changed leadership but if the public grudge is really as strong (and not easily forgotten) as you imply, then where were all the people who yelled they would never support blizz again (after either incident, or the many smaller things people have hated), they released the garbage pile that is D4 and upon quick google it made roughly as much money as D3.
People dont remember this stuff for more than a week, and even then, the people talking about it are a vocal minority. Most people don’t care or can’t afford to care in the first place. And most of the loud ones are just virtue signal bandwaggoning. This was very evident on reddit, for example. People somehow had all the same talking points for about 2-3 weeks, then it was the next thing, the old one somehow forgotten.
Yeah dude you’re right your defeatist logic is the only way to go
Nothing matters
Nothing you do matters
Life is meaningless
Boo hoo
I don’t subscribe to this ideology, so yes we will agree to disagree. You say shit like Anonymous and Wikileaks are largely forgotten 😂
You ask how hamas attacking freighters full of western goods and capital have anything to do with mega corps LMAO 🤣
The only way you could have a conversation with me was to try and shut down my original point (which all you’ve come back with was that Anonymous and Wikileaks just are forgotten somehow and have no ability to back that point up) by coming up with your own and arguing that.
That’s text book goalpost moving. Let me start randomly popping into your comments with other people claiming separate points as rationale for your point somehow not having meaning
This is literal Chewbacca defense gtfo of my responses please this shit is too funny
Nothing matters Nothing you do matters Life is meaningless
I mean, yea, does a rock rolling down a hill have meaning? But I don’t really see that as a problem, I’m having a banger time anyway…
You ask how hamas attacking freighters full of western goods and capital have anything to do with mega corps LMAO
Houthis are not the Hamas but okay… The Houthis are not protesting shipping or shipping companies in the red sea any more than climate activists are protesting classical paintings.
The only way you could have a conversation with me was to try and shut down my original point (which all you’ve come back with was that Anonymous and Wikileaks just are forgotten somehow and have no ability to back that point up) by coming up with your own and arguing that.
Mate, all you have come back with is “You are wrong LMAO🤣”, call it a strawman if you want, the distance from the steelman version of your arguments is a rounding error.
Anonymous hasn’t been in the news for anything for over a year and even then it was minor disruptive shit, WikiLeaks hasn’t published anything of note in 4 years… Go ask random people on the street to name one thing either is known for besides generalisations like hacking or leaks and watc 9/10 (probably more like 98/100) stumble over their words.
That’s text book goalpost moving. Let me start randomly popping into your comments with other people claiming separate points as rationale for your point somehow not having meaning
You are in the comments on a post about nintendo calling people dellusional for not believing some peoples grudge against one of the biggest names in the industry means jack. I provided reasonably similar examples ( EA, blizzard). So when you get called out on it you clap back with “but hamas, wikileaks and anonymous?” But sure, realism is dillusional defeatism, im shuffling goalposts left and right. Everyone who has seen your comment clearly agrees with you.
Goalposts? Come on
Is what I said. We were talking about public grudge against megacorps, how Hamas, Wikileaks or Anonymous factors in the topic, Im really not sure.
And I also don’t really see how I’m strawmanning. I was maybe being faceticious. By all means correct me if I’m wrong.
Walmart raising wages might be seen as a successfull protest, but walmart is still exploiting unskilled labour for terrible wages, just not terrible enough for people to huff and puff over. What actually changed about walmart?
Big oil is still just as horrible, we are still plunging head first into full scale climate catastrophe by the end of the century in pursuit of profits. What has actually changed?
If you want to call this an example of succesfull public action with sizeable long term implications, I guess we have to agree to disagree. The way I see it these companies just do the bare minimum to muffle the loud voices and just wait until the collective memory moves on to the next thing on the news cycle.
That is precisely what you said. And if we want to double back to your reply, both anonymous and wikileaks are largely forgotten as well.
Blizzard might have changed leadership but if the public grudge is really as strong (and not easily forgotten) as you imply, then where were all the people who yelled they would never support blizz again (after either incident, or the many smaller things people have hated), they released the garbage pile that is D4 and upon quick google it made roughly as much money as D3.
People dont remember this stuff for more than a week, and even then, the people talking about it are a vocal minority. Most people don’t care or can’t afford to care in the first place. And most of the loud ones are just virtue signal bandwaggoning. This was very evident on reddit, for example. People somehow had all the same talking points for about 2-3 weeks, then it was the next thing, the old one somehow forgotten.
Yeah dude you’re right your defeatist logic is the only way to go
Nothing matters
Nothing you do matters
Life is meaningless
Boo hoo
I don’t subscribe to this ideology, so yes we will agree to disagree. You say shit like Anonymous and Wikileaks are largely forgotten 😂
You ask how hamas attacking freighters full of western goods and capital have anything to do with mega corps LMAO 🤣
The only way you could have a conversation with me was to try and shut down my original point (which all you’ve come back with was that Anonymous and Wikileaks just are forgotten somehow and have no ability to back that point up) by coming up with your own and arguing that.
That’s text book goalpost moving. Let me start randomly popping into your comments with other people claiming separate points as rationale for your point somehow not having meaning
This is literal Chewbacca defense gtfo of my responses please this shit is too funny
I mean, yea, does a rock rolling down a hill have meaning? But I don’t really see that as a problem, I’m having a banger time anyway…
Houthis are not the Hamas but okay… The Houthis are not protesting shipping or shipping companies in the red sea any more than climate activists are protesting classical paintings.
Mate, all you have come back with is “You are wrong LMAO🤣”, call it a strawman if you want, the distance from the steelman version of your arguments is a rounding error.
Anonymous hasn’t been in the news for anything for over a year and even then it was minor disruptive shit, WikiLeaks hasn’t published anything of note in 4 years… Go ask random people on the street to name one thing either is known for besides generalisations like hacking or leaks and watc 9/10 (probably more like 98/100) stumble over their words.
You are in the comments on a post about nintendo calling people dellusional for not believing some peoples grudge against one of the biggest names in the industry means jack. I provided reasonably similar examples ( EA, blizzard). So when you get called out on it you clap back with “but hamas, wikileaks and anonymous?” But sure, realism is dillusional defeatism, im shuffling goalposts left and right. Everyone who has seen your comment clearly agrees with you.
E: minor interpolation in the last paragraph