• KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 months ago

    Nobody thinks that the human being is “illegal” whatever that means, it’s the immigration that was illegal.

    If you honestly think this, you’re not paying attention.

    Has anybody ever been removed from a country when they’ve been caught jay walking?

    What kind of argument is this? Jay walking and littering are on the same level, has a jay walker ever been forced to go back and pick up their litter? Cmon, you’re smart enough to understand that different crimes can be at the same level, and still have different punishments.

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      8 months ago

      If you honestly think this, you’re not paying attention.

      I’m aware that there is a lot of discrimination against immigrants, both illegal immigrants and legal immigrants. But, that discrimination isn’t caused by referring to them by an accurate term.

      What kind of argument is this?

      It’s a response to the stupid statement “Literally the law they broke is on the same level as jay walking”, which is clearly not true.

      has a jay walker ever been forced to go back and pick up their litter

      What does litter have to do with jay walking. Do you even understand what jay walking is?

      different crimes can be at the same level, and still have different punishments

      No… that’s what makes the “level” different. A crime that is punished more severely is at a more severe “level” than one that isn’t. Come on, this isn’t rocket surgery…

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        8 months ago

        Oh lordy.

        So the dehumanizing term should be used because it’s not the reason people are dehumanizing the people.

        Are you can fan of racial slurs by chance? Because “it’s just an accurate word for black people” is something racists say about certain words as well.

        What does litter have to do with jay walking.

        What does leaving the country have to do with jay walking?…

        I’m simply using your own flawed logic. And you’re proving my point.

        How exactly is rectifying the law broken a harsher punishment? How would it make any sense to just charge them a fine and let them be on their way? That’s like saying you should just fine someone littering and then ignore the fact that they are continuing to actively litter.

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          8 months ago

          So the dehumanizing term

          It’s not a dehumanizing term. That’s ridiculous.

          What does leaving the country have to do with jay walking?…

          Nothing. Is your brain mushy?

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            8 months ago

            Weird, because this was you up the chain a little:

            Has anybody ever been removed from a country when they’ve been caught jay walking?

            So which is it?

            It’s not a dehumanizing term. That’s ridiculous.

            The majority of the country disagrees.

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              8 months ago

              So which is it?

              It’s the same consistent thing: Jaywalking is not punished as severely as illegal immigration, because it’s not on the same “level”.

              The majority of the country disagrees.

              Which country, because definitely not the USA.