• HACKthePRISONS@kolektiva.social
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    8 months ago

    >No, it’s not. Has anybody ever been removed from a country when they’ve been caught jay walking? Even a fine is extremely rare. Being in a country illegally is a more serious offense by a pretty large margin.

    what makes you think anyone is in the country illegally? in america, people are entitle to a trial by a jury of their peers when they are accused of a crime. it looks to me like the accusation is just that, and you’ll forgive me if i don’t believe the government without proof.

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      8 months ago

      what makes you think anyone is in the country illegally?

      Do you understand what illegal immigration means?

      in america, people are entitle to a trial by a jury of their peers when they are accused of a crime

      Illegal street racers are members of the group who race cars illegally on the street. Any person accused of that crime deserves their day in court. But, that doesn’t change the fact that we know illegal street racing happens, and therefore there exist illegal street racers. Similarly, any individual person accused of illegal immigration deserves their day in court, but when referring to the group of people who have illegally immigrated into the US, “illegal immigrants” is a perfectly reasonable label.

      Unless you’re saying that you’re not convinced that anybody has ever violated immigration law, so “illegal immigration” is a myth?

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        8 months ago

        >Unless you’re saying that you’re not convinced that anybody has ever violated immigration law, so “illegal immigration” is a myth?

        i haven’t seen compelling evidence about it. but i will say i think borders are immoral and i know my duty vis-a-vis immoral laws.