Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) said policy differences toward Israel between her and President Biden won’t stop her from supporting him in the November general election.

“Of course,” Omar said Tuesday, when asked by CNN’s Abby Phillip on “NewsNight” whether she would vote for Biden if the election were held that day, in a clip highlighted by Mediaite. “Democracy is on the line, we are facing down fascism.”

“And I personally know what my life felt like having Trump as the president of this country, and I know what it felt like for my constituents, and for people around this country and around the world,” Omar continued. “We have to do everything that we can to make sure that does not happen to our country again.”

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    > like in WW2, we have fascists to defeat

    that’s what leftists are saying, and that’s why they are saying not to vote for democrats, too. it’s like you’re saying if we don’t vote for mussolini, we’ll get hitler. well i’m not voting for either of them.

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      Right, because the best way to fight fascists is to let them take over. Brilliant!

      Oh, and do you not think Omar and the rest of the squad leans left? Because she just said she plans to vote Biden. Or they just not progressive enough for you?

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        >Right, because the best way to fight fascists is to let them take over.

        you don’t seem to get that mussolini was a fascist too.

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          Yeah, he invented it. You equating Biden with Mussolini? Because I’m not seeing the hyper-nationalism, the militarism, the subjugation of the individual for the state, the undemocratic holding of power, etc etc etc.

          Unless you believe in the right-wing conspiracy theories anyway. Hmm…

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            oh. let me help you out:

            he wrote the patriot act

            he wrote the crime bill

            he voted for every military intervention for the last 50 years, sometimes grandstanding on making them happen

            i don’t know about the undemocratic holding of power: i’m pretty sure that the appearance of democracy is a desirable trait for any authoritarian regime, but when less than half the eligible populace votes, how can you claim any government is democratic?

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              Patriot Act:

              On October 23, 2001, U.S. Representative Jim Sensenbrenner (R-WI) introduced House bill H.R. 3162, which incorporated provisions from a previously-sponsored House bill, and a Senate bill introduced earlier in the month.[5] The next day, October 24, the Act passed the House by a vote of 357–66,[6] with Democrats comprising the overwhelming majority of “no”-votes. The three Republicans voting “no” were Robert Ney of Ohio, Butch Otter of Idaho, and Ron Paul of Texas. On October 25, the Act passed the Senate with a vote of 98–1. Russ Feingold (D-WI) voted “no”.[7]

              He did draft the Senate version of the '94 crime bill, you’re half right on that one, though only half since his draft wasn’t that different from the House version. Though I’m not sure that makes him a fascist.

              Regarding the WoT, we were attacked, I’ll remind you. Democratic countries responding to attacks does not make them militaristic fascists. Did we conquer anything?

              Lastly, people have the liberty to vote or not. That supersedes any authoritarian requirement that they do so, in most people’s opinions anyway. People are free to vote if they wish, and if they vote him out, he’ll leave.

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                  Let’s just condense your two comments into one, eh? If Biden is in your book, then I probably am too. I think you’re using a weird book though.

                  So, you must be referring to: Much of its rejected proposals were ultimately recycled as the USAPATRIOT Act of 2001 with Joe Biden’s vocal endorsement.[8]

                  I suppose that works, though counter-terrorism does require tools to battle it. We’re not pacifists either you know, Americans can be quite aggressive in personality sometimes. We are careful, however, to draw a distinction between militaristic conquest and defense. You’ll note America is still the same size it was then, despite successfully holding both Iraq and Afghanistan for a time.

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            >Unless you believe in the right-wing conspiracy theories anyway

            what right wing conspiracy theory are you talking about? this appears to be an attempt to pigeonhole me and my legitimate criticisms.

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              Only way I can think of Biden fitting the fascist glove, is if someone believes Trump’s lines about the election. Otherwise it just doesn’t make sense.