Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) said policy differences toward Israel between her and President Biden won’t stop her from supporting him in the November general election.
“Of course,” Omar said Tuesday, when asked by CNN’s Abby Phillip on “NewsNight” whether she would vote for Biden if the election were held that day, in a clip highlighted by Mediaite. “Democracy is on the line, we are facing down fascism.”
“And I personally know what my life felt like having Trump as the president of this country, and I know what it felt like for my constituents, and for people around this country and around the world,” Omar continued. “We have to do everything that we can to make sure that does not happen to our country again.”
Well, you claimed our military responses in the GWOT made us fascist. The only alternative would have been to bend over and just take it. That’s pacifism.
there are a thousand other responses besides military adventurism. some of them were used along side of it, including increased surveillance of innocent people, criminalizing vast swathes of the populace, and restricting movement of people and money.
you don’t need to “bend over and take it”. you could very well figure out whether maybe we did something to cause it, and fix the underlying issues.
Sure, and I do think fixing those underlying issues is very important. But once attacked, it’s bombing time, not reflection time. Then, how do you fight an organization that tries to hide its tracks? There’s practical requirements. That doesn’t make it fascism.
The GWOT was not Vietnam, we were attacked. People were warmongering hard, and so the government responded.
>But once attacked, it’s bombing time, not reflection time.
please seek help.
So, let’s re-condense again.
Sorry, but to do otherwise is actually pacifism. When attacked and thousands die, you find and kill the attackers. I think that’s not fascism. It’s a far cry from the system Mussolini invented.
that’s not what pacifism is.
Okay, what would you say the difference is?
passivism is a policy of never attacking. I’m not advocating for that. I’m saying the US is fascist and it’s military adventurism in the Middle East was not justified. in fact it was our military venturism in the Middle East that caused the 9/11 attack. The response should not have been to attack, it should have been to fix the problems, at least some of which included our bloated military and our abusive financial system. instead we inflated the military more and made the financial system even more abusive and incorporated it into a surveillance state.
I agree that the underlying problem of the military-industrial complex was a causative element. But the previous war to that, of defending Kuwait in Desert Storm, was a defensive war. That was a UN force composed of dozens of countries, hosted by Saudi Arabia, not simple adventurism. The Kuwaitis asked for help.
the us is fascist, and the war on terror was just an expression of that.
i assure i was not advocating pacifism. i am advocating the abolition of capital, wage slavery, and the state. i don’t think anyone ever confused that with “pacifism”