In a first, the state has purchased shoot houses designed for indoor gun training to help school staff ‘respond to active shooter’

In a first, the state has purchased shoot houses designed for indoor gun training to help school staff ‘respond to active shooter’

Ohio appears to be the first state to purchase shoot houses – mobile homes designed for indoor firearms training – to better prepare public school staff “to respond to an active shooter”.

The Ohio Controlling Board, which helps oversee changes to the state budget, approved public safety officials’ request for $78,028 last month to purchase two shoot houses to help train public school employees that are allowed to carry firearms at work.

“Currently, we have movable canvas walls that can be configured to simulate responding to an active shooter in a school, like walking down a hallway, but there are limits,” said Jay Carey, a spokesperson for the Ohio department of public safety. “The more realistic we can make the training, the better prepared armed school staff will be to respond to an active shooter.”

  • qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.world
    793·
    7 months ago

    The more realistic we can make the training, the better prepared armed school staff will be to respond to an active shooter

    At Uvalde, local law enforcement trained AT THE SCHOOL. It didn’t help at all. And that was for people trained for a shootout. What makes anyone think this is a good idea for regular staff members?

    Under the 2022 law, school personnel – who were previously required to receive the same 700 hours of firearms training as law enforcement officials or security officers – can carry guns at school after 24 hours of instruction, provided they have permission from the local school board.

    Holy shit. I’m not a gambler, but I wouldn’t bet against someone getting shot unjustifiably in the first year of implementation.

    • ChocoboRocket@lemmy.world
      182·
      7 months ago

      Let me preface this by saying that I wholly agree with you, and that more guns or training isn’t going to solve this problem.

      BUT

      I’d also wager that any teacher is likely going to be more willing to protect their students than any cop/the police.

      Teachers with guns + training is not the solution to the problem. That being said, cops don’t give a shit about anyone but themselves, so replacing them with literally anyone else will likely result in massive performance improvements!

      • AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world
        343·
        7 months ago

        You have teachers in school with guns it’s only gonna be a matter of time before you have new stats to play with.

        Number of students killed or maimed by a teacher’s gun during a fight or other altercation. Number of teachers and students killed by a student who gets a teacher’s gun. Number of teachers who commit suicide using their service gun.

        I’m not even using my hyperbole muscles, that’s just what’s gonna happen.

        • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
          4·
          7 months ago

          No you are bringing up a good point. This happened with the Sikhs. The boys carry a concealed dagger as part of their faith and issue brought up was even if you could trust that particular kid other kids know they have it and could take it from him. From what I understand most now wear a ceremonial blunt wood one.

            • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
              2·
              7 months ago

              I don’t know if that is always the case, but it is certainly true that the kirpan is not required to be sharp (I was just reading about it the other day). They may also just be strapped down to the scabbard rather than glued. I’ve seen people do that at places where costumes involving swords are worn like ren fairs.

      • themeatbridge@lemmy.world
        103·
        7 months ago

        Consider also that not every teacher is a stable individual. Teachers are put in high-stress situations with a bunch of snotty little goblins who push every button. Teachers are human beings, and cover the entire spectrum of psychological stability. Police are ostensibly screened and trained in restraint.

        Some teacher is going to get pushed too far and shoot a child.

        • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
          3·
          7 months ago

          Has anyone not had at least one teacher their life who mysteriously vanished during the school year and people talked about how they kit a kid?

      • BakerBagel@midwest.social
        4·
        7 months ago

        I had a very eye opening expirience hanging out with education majors when i was in college. Teachers are just normal people who happen to work with kids. They are just as selfish, caring, unstable, and understanding as anyone else. Ask yourself which of your neighbors you would trust to stop a home invasion, and realize that is the same pool you are asking to stop school shootings.

        • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
          5·
          7 months ago

          I got one neighbor I would trust to stop a home invasion, he is an alcoholic welder and emits a low level tough guy field. We get along. Pretty sure he would throw himself in front of a bus to save my kids life but hasn’t bothered to learn their names.