hey everyone. if you want to post links or discuss the Reddit blackout, its aftermath, and what’s happening going forward, please localize it to this thread in order to keep things tidy! thanks! we’ll see if we need to cycle the thread again before the end of this week, but i don’t know that we’ll need to

  • terath@kbin.social
    12·
    2 years ago

    One could say that the people supporting mastodon with rhetoric like yours are too fucking lazy and pathetic to bother building a system with good UX. The choice is not in fact, “freedom” or “usability.” It’s very easy to have both, but mastodon supporters don’t seem to care. You are not owed anything, and no most people will not bother with some janky software.

    If you want to change the world on a lager scale, do better, don’t blame others.

    • Uniquitous@lemmy.one
      10·
      2 years ago

      Nah. There’s an old maxim that states if you make something idiot-proof, they’ll just come out with a dumber idiot. The hell with them. Let’s build something smart. If they want in, they can smarten up.

    • Hot Saucerman@lemmy.ml
      8·
      2 years ago

      too fucking lazy and pathetic to bother building a system with good UX

      do better, don’t blame others.

      You are not owed anything.

      Make up your mind. You’re not owed a “good UX” from people who do this for you for free. Sorry you need hand holding to figure this shit out.

      • terath@kbin.social
        6·
        2 years ago

        The opposite of “not interested in your jank software” is not “thinking they are owed improved software.” It’s called using alternatives, or even not using anything at all. Honestly aggressive insulting attitudes like yours are one of the big reasons I personally have no interest in mastodon.

        I sure hope kbin/lemmy is not overrun with the arrogant tech bro vibe. It’s gross.

        • Hot Saucerman@lemmy.ml
          8·
          2 years ago

          No, really, I want to know how lost you are here.

          1. I’m posting from Lemmy to a Beehaw thread, that just happened to mention Mastodon… This thread isn’t directly on Mastodon. People leaving for BlueSky over Mastodon is just a reference point.

          2. Making the choice that “usability matters” means you’re willing to shack up with Jack Dorsey and his horrible politics over a community.

          3. You don’t even know what a fucking techbro is. Steve Huffman, the goober who ran half us off of reddit, is a techbro. Someone who only got into tech for money. I’m not sure if you’ve been paying attention but the people who are producing Free Open Source Software like Lemmy, Kbin, and Mastodon aren’t in it to make money and are in it to create communities.

          4. How is it insulting to say that the people who, once again are creating the place you are posting as a free service and not seeing remuneration, don’t owe it to anyone to spend their lives on usability when they are primarily a programmer and not user interface specialist? Like you yourself said, they don’t actually owe you that.

          5. Further, how is it insulting to say that people who don’t want to learn something because it isn’t immediately easy to use are lazy or unwilling to learn? Do you have any idea how many corporate pieces of shitty software with bad UI and usability I have been forced to and learned to use in my lifetime? Way too fucking many, and these are pieces of software private companies pay a fucking mint for.

          I really think you need to lower your expectations from admins programming a free piece of software in their spare time and paying for server costs with donations. Also, seriously, figure out what a “techbro” is, it’s not the people giving you free shit with no ads who have decided not to enshittify their services to get more money while fucking over users.

          Find a map, because you’re lost.