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    He’s doing this because they didn’t pass immigration reform.

    Republican immigration reform. Lets be clear, it was a lift and shift of what would have been the most draconian shift in US immigration policy in US history. Its a good thing that it wasn’t passed.

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      My point is POTUS has no power over immigration policy. All he can do is detain, turn away, or follow existing policy creating homeless migrants in sanctuary cities. The ones who are responsible for how immigrants and migrants are supported upon entry are the ones criticizing him.

      It’s like if your team half-asses a project, and your boss cancels the project because it’s a failure, are you going to criticize the boss for cancelling the failed project?

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        He’s literally pushing for a republican policy that is extremely anti immigrant and most likely illegal due to denying asylum seekers

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          No, he’s not. He’s implementing an Executive Order. That’s not immigration policy.

          Executive Orders can be used to close the border or detain until suitable housing is available. They cannot be used to increase funding for support of migrants in sanctuary cities, nor can they reform the policy on naturalization. That requires congressional legislation.

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            The bill he keeps pushing is a republicans wet dream. This is is way of doing it while congress rightly doesn’t touch it.

            “The Biden administration just announced an executive order that will severely restrict people’s legal right to seek asylum, putting tens of thousands of lives at risk,” the organization said in a post on X.

            It’s literally blocking asylum. That’s the EO

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              Without hyperbole, it’s an Executive Order that restricts the influx at the border. It’s one of his three options.

              1. Turn away at border

              2. Detain until housing is available

              3. Do nothing (Follow current congressional immigration policy and continue busing migrants to be homeless in sanctuary cities)

              What do you suggest instead, given his limited power?

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                  That is not accurate. Immigration right now is causing a variety of problems, including for those migrating. I recommend reading this for an explanation of the current issues and some independent ideas on how to solve them.

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                  Doing nothing is the third option. That defaults to the current immigration policy that was written in 1986 with some asylum assistance added only for minors in 2019. The assistance for minors was what Trump twisted into Title 42, when he detained children and deported their parents.

                  There is nothing mandating that border cities host any migrants, so they get bused to sanctuary cities. It’s up to sanctuary cities to offer housing based on state budget. When housing runs out, migrants are homeless.

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                    Biden’s order will temporarily shut down the US-Mexico border to asylum seekers attempting to enter the country legally when authorities have determined that the border is “overwhelmed”.

                    It only blocks asylum seekers.

                    It’s also how trump did his Muslim ban which was already ruled illegal. So why is Biden doing it except to screw over those seeking asylum?

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                Just to be clear, this is a false choice fallacy you are engaged in.

                There is an infinite series of other options and approaches that Biden could take to immigration reform. Its a choice of his to both a) accept the right wing framing of this issue and b), to adopt Republican policy on this issue.

                Biden has chosen both of those options.

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                  You don’t understand how the government works if you think POTUS has unlimited power outside of a National Emergency. He has the ability to control the border with Executive Order. Immigration policy is created by Congress.

                  What do you suggest he do instead?

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                    You are projecting and some how have maintained a total ignorance of the 117th US congress.

                    Biden had a bill in the house that he wanted them to pass.

                    It was a horrible draconian border bill with terrible policies in it. It was a total lift and shift of the same terrible polices Republicans support. If it wasn’t for the self-cuck that MAGA engaged in, it would have become law.

                    Biden could take another approach. Maybe something people who would actually vote for him would like in regards to border policy. Maybe fix H1B’s and our broken education visa-system.

                    No. No Biden isn’t interested in any of that. Biden wants a Republican border policy.