My original question was “How do we disincentivize the purchase of pickup trucks/SUVs” but then I thought it would be better to approach the larger problem of car dependency and car ownership. One option is, of course, to create public transit infrastructure and improve it where it already exist. This, however, doesn’t change the fact that some will still choose to drive. What would be the best ways to discourage people from owning personal cars?

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    I love the act of driving and the skills I’ve developed over my lifetime. It’s freeing, relaxing, and I find a meditative quality and peace when I drive in the mountains.

    I like walking in nature but in my country you can’t escape the sound of distant cars. I’m sure it’s not you, you’re definitely the exception and a model citizen, but your hobby is giving me tinnitus and is infringing upon mine. It’s not a culture war, it’s just shit that’s bad for us all vs shit that’s not bad for us all and you really like doing the shit that’s bad for us all so you have this strange cognitive dissonance about it where you can totally admit it’s bad but refuse to stop doing it.

    You want to discourage people from buying cars? Then don’t buy one. Be the example you seek.

    I’ve never owned a car in my life and I don’t have a license but this hasn’t stopped any of these people from being average car owners…

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      your hobby is giving me tinnitus and is infringing upon mine

      Ha! Not a chance. My car is totally stock and doesn’t produce anywhere near the levels of sound pressure to damage hearing. Not even close, dude.

      And I have my dashcam videos of bicycles behaving badly too.

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        Tinnitus is affected by constant exposure, not just dB. Cars make noise and a constant low droning sound gives you tinnitus as well.

        I, too, have videos of bicycles behaving poorly. Again, cognitive dissonance; we are not discussing bicycles.

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          As a former sound engineer, I am well aware of the dangers of volume and exposure limits.

          If a liesurly drive way in the mountains gives you hearing damage, your bigger concern is why you’re being dragged behind a car.

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              Dude, I already tore a similar article a new one weeks ago.

              If it’s anything like the last article, they cherry picked data and exaggerated results…

              See if this applies: linky

              Ohh … Turtle is done laying eggs and running away! Got to go!

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                You are correct and the thousands of scientists who have come to this same conclusion are wrong, totally bro

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                  Ahhh ok, because you asked so nicely.

                  Nothing in the article mentions sound levels in the dangerous range.

                  In fact, it can be sumed up with "This just in, traffic can be heard! More at 11!

                  Around 100 million people are exposed to road traffic noise above 55 dB

                  Drumroll Leeeeeeets check the charts!

                  It basically says traffic can be heard in the distance.

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                    I don’t know how to explain this to you this without resorting to crayons but let me try to put it succinctly:

                    Low dB are still dangerous to health if they are constant and over a long period of time.

                    You don’t have to reply, I know you disagree.