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    18 days ago

    You should not support Hitler just because you think Goebbels is worse. You should work against both genociders, not be an advocate for one.

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        18 days ago

        Bourgeois democracy is incapable of substantially opposing capitalism, the capitalists will just pull a capital strike and hire thugs and PR people etc etc. Countries that voted in socialists found themselves, and particularly their left parties, under terrorist attacks and faced coups. Some outright banned anticapitalist parties. If you do not organize and arm yourselves, you will simply get murdered en masse.

        But if alternative voting systems inspire you, I do encourage you to get involved IRL in organizing efforts. This will teach you a subset of organizing skills that are more widely applicable. You will get to see the patterns of your opponents, too. Of our opponents.

        But I also recommend reading widely and critically, to challenge yourself with the material histories of left organizing and, even more importantly, its failures. Who fought us. Who won. What is GLADIO. Who is Suharto. What happened to Allende and why. What happened to the pan-Africanists, the pan-Arabs. Why is the US left so anemic? Why are the European “communist” parties so liberal? Etc etc.

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      18 days ago

      Gonna be hard to work against anything when you’ve been executed for knowing a trans person and not reporting them.

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        18 days ago

        Hitler talked about helping the “Volk” while supporting the system that kept them subservient to capital. The analogy here is not exact, but Democrat politicians are not exactly real trans advocates even if individuals sometimes are. He’ll they allow big, loud transphobes to have plenty of voice in their party, they are courtkng Republicans, lauding endorsements from reactionary war criminals. As in the UK, trans people are on th3 chopping block of this faux-progressive party and it is extraparty advocacy that really keeps things afloat.

        Work locally to support trans people. Build mutual aid networks, build groups that do direct action, make unions pro-trans, protect events that normalize being trans. Kamala Harris isn’t doing shot for trans people except appropriation and a smile while yelling you that the naked transohkbia rampant in the party and everyday life is just the price you pay for freedom: or else.

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          18 days ago

          You are correct.

          and I would prefer to keep gays, trans, and women alive while we work at the local level in the meantime.

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            18 days ago

            Voting for Kid Killer Kamala ain’t doing that. And there is no meantime, organizing requires your help right now.

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              18 days ago

              Oh so you think i should vote for Trump who will kill them himself?

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                18 days ago

                You should vote for neither and should spend your efforts and time thinking about this to work against them and for our mutual liberation.

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                  18 days ago

                  Ahhh, there it is. A Trump supporter in disguise.

                  Btw, the two aren’t mutually exclusive.

                  I wont be replying again, feel free to have the final word.

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                    18 days ago

                    Given that I oppose Trump and am not voting for him, it requires a bit of dishonesty and mental gymnastics to call me a Trump supporter.

                    Please do your best to engage in good faith and directly address what I say. Sometimes we internalize the logic of our oppressors and this can lead to incorrect actions and prevent having the right positions and coherent solidarity with others. I think that is what is happening here.