A new poll suggests that Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein is drawing more voters from former President Donald Trump than from Vice President Kamala Harris.

According to a Noble Predictive Insights survey released last week, Harris holds a narrow lead over Trump in a hypothetical three-way race. With Stein on the ballot, Harris’ lead expands, pointing to a potential spoiler effect similar to what many Democrats blamed Stein for doing to Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election.

For Trump, the emergence of Stein as a potential spoiler may be a critical factor in battleground states, where even a small shift in votes could determine the outcome. For Harris, Stein’s candidacy could paradoxically provide an unexpected advantage, drawing votes from Trump and narrowing his pathway to victory.

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    democracy enjoyers when people vote for candidates that better represent their positions: 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

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      Donald Trump is a threat to democracy 😭😭😭 now shut up and vote for the candidate, peasant. You’ll have a primary when you earn it.

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      Democracy enjoyers understand that this version of democracy doesn’t care about third parties 🤷‍♂️ vote for the lesser evil and campaign locally for vote reform

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        That’s one opinion, and it certainly has its place, but it also leads to weak candidates like Hillary Clinton. Not surprisingly, if you push weak candidates and argue that we should vote for them because they’re not as bad as the person on the other side, a lot of voters will stay home.

        After all, if you’re going to hell, does it matter if it’s slightly slower or slightly faster? Yeah, it probably does, but that story takes a long time to tell, and many people have short attention spans.

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          After all, if you’re going to hell, does it matter if it’s slightly slower or slightly faster

          So you don’t actually care about the people being genocided, just how it affects you? Voting Stein will lead to more Palestinian deaths, and you are explicitly saying that you’re okay with that. Cool. You sound great.

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        I’m not voting for the “lesser evil” when the “lesser evil” commits a genocide. There is no dilemma when we are counting genocides. When do you start realising that both are serving the 1% interests? When does this end - if the dems commit 3 genocides and the republicans 4? If the dems commit 10 and the republicans 11? The red line is long crossed.

        Don’t tell us what to do lmfao.

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          Congrats, your actions likely lead to even more Palestinian deaths. Yay, you “took a stand.” The extra dead will be so thankful.

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            It’s so funny that you think the democrats aren’t the genocidal maniacs that have unconditionally supported and armed Israel. It doesn’t get much worse than this, Israel has got literally everything it has asked for lmao. The problem is you thinking they are in any way holding back, but go off. As Joe said, no president has supported Israel as much as I did.

            Tell us how not so evil the democrats, which are funded by the military industrial complex more than the republicans, are. Tell us how they work for our interests, not the oligarchs, please.

            I’ve said this a million times, if the two candidates were Hitler and Hitler again, but he funded a little bit more the healthcare system who would you vote for? None is the answer. When the dilemma consists of ideologies and political/social trajectories that are 100% opposite to your ideal ones, the lesser evil doesn’t exist.

            Don’t blame the dead on the people who have done more than the 99% for the cause, I can’t take you seriously that way. You can blame the oligarchs and the fascists/liberals who don’t care.

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          You should try to enact change locally, then. You throwing your vote away doesn’t change what our system is, it just elects the candidate that will kill more people.

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      I’m sorry that I live in reality and like to focus on actual outcomes instead the little butterflies I get when I make empty idealistic speeches.

      Getting Trump elected better represents your position? Then by all means - that’s the only thing your vote can actually accomplish in her bucket.

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          Voting third party under the US system doesn’t improve society so, like you, the meme kind of misses the point.

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            Voting third party under the US system in the imperial core* doesn’t improve society

            FTFY. Organizing and direct action gets concessions

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            So don’t vote is your message. As a PSL voter I agree, but i want you to internalize what you’re saying.