• gian @lemmy.grys.it
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    8 days ago

    Even Wikipedia, which is a shockingly bloodthirsty pro-NATO outlet, admits there is zero proof that a “Russian state actor” did this, there are just “western security experts” claiming it (as usual), and opinion is divided.

    Well, I don’t think that a “[insert your preferred state] state actor” would ever coming out saying “yes, we tried to to it”.

    Not to say that what Wikipedia say is false but on the other hand I am not sure how to check if it is true, in these cases.

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      8 days ago

      It’s literally just speculation. Even if it were true, what the fuck does that have to do with the nationality of a few Linux contributors? Have you people cracked?

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        7 days ago

        It’s literally just speculation.

        I agree.

        Even if it were true, what the fuck does that have to do with the nationality of a few Linux contributors?

        Probably nothing, I agree. But since there are sanctions against Russia I suppose they have not really any other choice.

        Is that sad ? Yes, but it is life.

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          7 days ago

          By keep it vague and saying their hands are tied they also get to dodge any kind of scutiny on what decisions they actually made before doing this.

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              6 days ago

              I don’t trust them considering their enthusiasm over it and the comments about Finnish history. Go read “Finnisu Civil War: History, Memory, Legacy” by Tepora and try to laugh at the comments about history. Impossible.

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                5 days ago

                I don’t trust them considering their enthusiasm over it and the comments about Finnish history.

                If, as it seems to emerge, they are “forced” to do it under legal advise, it is completely irrelevant that you (or anybody else for that matter) trust them or not.

                About their “enthusiasm”, all I can see is that after the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Russia is not sees as that friendly and trustworthy anymore: they had a signed treaty with Ukraine to preserve Ukranian integrity in exchange of the nuclear weapons (from URSS), we see how much Russia valued their own word. I cannot blame someone from a country which share a border with Russia for not having simpaty for Russia.
                True, someone innocent will pay, but it is not that different from having Russian scientist turned away from CERN or any other situation where there was a collaboration. It is sad but on the other hand it is a consequence.

                Go read “Finnisu Civil War: History, Memory, Legacy” by Tepora and try to laugh at the comments about history. Impossible.

                As you cannot laugh to any other memory of any other war.

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                  5 days ago

                  You are too blinded by propaganda to use reason. It’s deeply pathetic.

                  Didn’t read the book did you dum dum?