• henfredemars@infosec.pub
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    The things consumers most want are features they really don’t want to give us, like expandable storage, replaceable batteries, and other actual solvable problems where they stand to benefit.

    Best I can do is AI.

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      I’ll just stay over here with a phone I can repair that fits in my pocket with a 3.5mm headphone jack until they turn off the 4g network, ok.

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          Samsung S10e

          nothing fancy just a proper small flagship phone, had it since new and battery life is still perfectly fine, never had to repair anything. I think android support has just ended recently so I’m going to be flashing a newer OS soon and get many more years out of it. as with anything you own, take care of it and it will take care of you.

          literally any phone should last you multiple years, if that’s not the case for you the type of phone isn’t the problem.

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          I have the Fairphone 5, it has everything mentioned and 5G but no 3.5mm jack.

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      The free market has been deliberately shit at meeting the demands of consumers for quite some time. Big players like Apple have been very good at manufacturing hype and loyalty to deliver mediocre products for a consistent revenue stream instead. Smaller companies are either too irrelevant to make an impact or just try to mimic the more successful companies instead.

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      I went from a 6.5 year old iPhone to a 16 man pro max big and it’s amazing. I dig that I can keep a phone for over six years

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      Fairphone 5 can do that, and even give you choice over your RAM.

      Although the phone isn’t sold in the US, it will work the best on T-Mobile since the Fairphone 5’s chipset best aligns with those frequencies (sorry for the reddit post).

      Would’ve been my first phone after my previous 7 year old Galaxy Note9, but it incurred water damage. Definitely considering it still though even with my new phone lease because of the Fairphone 5 being unlocked

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        Real shame it’s not sold in the States! And I would prefer a higher-end processor option but I understand the choice for support.

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        I’m not sure how many people need more storage but the current way is predatory and the general public would pick up battery swaps pretty easily.

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          When your phone is no longer locked down and working against you, it’s amazing how much more you can - and will - do with it, and the extra storage space quickly becomes most appreciated.

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            have been discontinued or unpopular.

            …and? Manufacturers will drop expandable storage because they can charge $100+ more for a model with another 128gb. Yes they still sell phones with them but they’re not the flagships.

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              Are there phones with expandable storage that people could buy to avoid that cost?

              If so, why aren’t they that popular?

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                Why are you like this? There’s no reason I can’t have a phone with a nice screen, top of the lime camera, and the above. Other than no one wanting to sell one.

                And yes, any decent phone will take good enough photos but is that the point?

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                  I’m sure there’s companies that make them. But if people wanted them, and they’re able to buy them, then there must be some reason they’re not.

                  Maybe it’s because most people - not internet nerds like us - don’t care about those things.

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            The phones with those features have been discontinued but they were never unpopular, they were just what phones were.

            Nobody 10 years ago was saying “I wish I couldn’t replace my phone battery” or “I hate that I have the option to plug my wired IEMs into my phone”

            People just do what people are good at. Adapting.

            Manufacturers have taken these options away because it is profitable to do so. People have largely adapted to that (although I still refuse to buy a phone without a headphone jack)

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              Yes, and the reason it was profitable to do so was that people don’t care about them.

              If they did care, the companies that removed them would have gone out of business.

              So, again, most people - of which we are not - do not care about these features.

              Sorry to burst your bubble.

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        Dude we used to have expandable storage in the form of micro SD cards and same with batteries. People know or could figure it out.

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    I know it’s a cringe trend now, but: Downvoted for censorship. Do not keep your memes safe for TikTok!

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        Say “shit”, not “sh*t”.

        Say “pussy”, not “p**sy”.

        Say “gay”, not “”.

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            My understanding is that it’s driven by Tiktok, which, being a Chinese company, lives and breathes censorship and forced societal norms.

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              Maybe driven by it, but I’m on an established forum that just doesn’t allow swearing in an attempt to be “family friendly.” (Everyone on it is an adult, but whatever.)

              So when I repost stuff from here to there, I have to censor it. I think it’s silly, but it’s not the first forum I’ve been on that has mandated that.

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                Replacing a letter with an asterisk is still “swearing”. Censorship, on its face, is ridiculous. If the “family friendly” forum allows “swear” words with one or more letters blurred, they’re mindless hypocrites.

                I’m sure you know this, not targeting you with any of my ire.

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            To share those on linkedin and corporate slack, I guess. Or in schools, or in boomer chats or something.

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    What kinda features do you honestly expect? Phones can basically already do everything these days. Of course the most noteable difference is CPU speed but you don’t need a new one for that every year, or do you upgrade your PC as soon as a new CPU or graphics card hit the market?

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      We are “there” with processing power IMO. Form factor is the next evolution. Try a foldable and find out that regular phones are so limiting.

      • I can legit get work done. Two or three apps comfortably shown. (Teams, tickets, admin console)

      • I just moved and reading/signing docs on a big screen was so helpful.

      • navigation with an 8in screen is objectively better. Can even split screen with Spotify or the message thread with whoever I am visiting/meeting.

      • tripod for taking pics. I use this SO much. Along with selfies using the main cameras

      I tried to go from fold 3 to S23U and gave it to my mom after 2 weeks. Right back to foldables with OnePlus Open. Takes even better pics

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        Larger form factors also means more room for batteries. Granted, larger screens require them, but I think my point stands. I’ve been on the Samsung Note since like the Note 4 (I think). The larger amount of screen real estate is genuinely a welcome upgrade and that’s the whole point of the foldables… it’s the next evolution of the “phablet.”

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          Chinese ones are literally the thickness of an iPhone, when folded. With bigger batteries too! SiC tech we don’t have in the US yet.

          It’s wild how foldables were just weird and cumbersome, and all of a sudden are “ready”. My fold3 was so goofy in retrospect. Me OPO has fooled people into thinking it’s a regular phone when just sitting on a table a few times

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          I guess if phones turn into all-in-one devices we could need more power, but I haven’t noticed any change in gaming performance for generations of snapdragon. Always locked at 60 fps.

          I guess efficiency is always welcome

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            My point was that we cannot predict the future, saying something like;

            we are “there” with processing power

            Will be as incorrect as

            640Kb should be enough for anybody

            It’s just impossible to predict, not only how we will utilize our tools, but also what the consumer wants in 10 years or so.

            Besides, narrowing the scope of the device down to “just” gaming is a limited viewpoint.

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              Ok, What do you foresee us needing to do on our phones that we cannot do now?

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                I don’t know, you don’t know, no one knows… at least not for certain. That’s my point. If I wanted to try my luck with being an oracle, I’d play the lottery ;-)

                What I’m challenging is to just plainly saying “nope well never need anymore computational power in our device”…

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      Who are these people? All my friends and family keep phones for 3-5 years. Im the “new phone” guy and I’m on a 3 year schedule

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          If they want new tech why get on an iPhone program? They are withholding progress to give a slow trickle over time. I guarantee I could not tell the difference between the last 3 years of iPhones if you put them in front of me.