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      I’m starting to think now the trolley problem should be reframed as a catch-22 / false choice / manufactured consent.

      Who constructed this trolley? Why are there only two options shown? Do these options actually match reality? etc.

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      More of an intelligence test. “Do you understand the fact that inaction had consequences?” Helps separate adults from children.

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        Makes sense. As a grown adult, I also require overly simplistic illustrations in order to grasp concepts.

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          When you are filtering out the young, the dumb, and those arguing in bad faith, overly simplistic is an excellent first filter. If they can pass that base level filter of rudimentary critical thinking skills, then you can feel free to enter into more nuance and subtlety.

          No point in engaging with those who can’t even grasp the simplest concepts.

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            Seems like a bigger waste of time to just end up engaging with people who can vault over pictures, but can’t handle nuance.

            Start the discussion on an intellectual level, and those who can’t grasp it can go read until they’re ready to talk.

            Or they can go find someone else who will argue with cartoons or whatever, I’m sure they’ll be happier there.

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              When it comes to battling fascist-enabling rhetoric, I prefer as comprehensive an approach as possible. In truth, the circle jerk tankies and bad faith actors won’t be swayed by any amount of intellectual engagement. The goal isn’t to convince them, it’s to publicly counter their garbage takes in as simple and straightforward a way as possible, in order to avoid letting sincere but impressionable leftists fall for superficially reasonable looking moral imperatives.