• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    I knew all these single issue fake leftists were full of shit when it was revealed that Trump has been sabotaging peace talks and they weren’t immediately outraged by that revelation.

    Why would anyone even be surprised by that? We’re mad because Democrats see what’s happening between Trump and Netanyahu and are doing what Netanyahu wants anyway.

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      3 days ago

      There is a lot more going on in the Middle East than any American citizen can understand. Voting for ANY candidate will not fix it. Even if we voted in a candidate that vehemently opposed Israel, nothing would change. Our military and I intelligence network there is dependent on a strong Israel.

      Unfortunately there is nothing we can do about it except purge congress and get all anti Israel politicians. Good luck making that happen.

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        2 days ago

        There is a lot more going on in the Middle East than any American citizen can understand.

        “Oh, your feeble anti-genocide mind just can’t imagine the vastness of why we have to keep doing everything Netanyahu wants!”

        Democracy is on the line. Our singleminded devotion to the right-wing government of a genocidal apartheid state is less important than preserving democracy itself. But not to Democrats.

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          Look we just have to work with that national socialist party just long enough to get rid of the dirty communists and get the money rolling again and then we can get rid of them.
          Like what’s the worst that can happen while we give them some power?
          They burn the Reichstag down? Ha.

          Us liberal conservatives have nothing to fear. We are the obvious choice anyways. Who else could they turn to?

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      2 days ago

      Electoral politics is a fickle thing. If Harris makes a statement either way on Palestine, she will lose.

      I just can’t seem to understand why nobody seems to get this.

      Edit: I honestly can’t wait until November 6th when all of these bullshit, brand new accounts astroturfing for third parties and doing everything they can to get the fascist elected, mysteriously disappear.

      And if they don’t, well, I guess this website isn’t for me.

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        2 days ago

        If Harris makes a statement either way on Palestine, she will lose.

        She has already made it clear that Biden’s policy regarding Gaza is her policy. She has taken sides on the issue already. You just like the side she took.

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          I agree completely. Which is why we need to do what is in our power to minimize the loss of innocent lives.

          And that means doing literally everything we can to stop Donald Trump from becoming president, full stop.

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        We can’t change course, we obviously have to hit that iceberg and then just hope for the best afterwards. What use would turning at all do. Honestly, I think hitting the iceberg isn’t even that bad of an idea. The other crazy person we would let behind the wheel would also drive us straight into the iceberg anyways but playing music to cover the screams of horror better.
        Everyone screaming about the iceberg is just over reacting anyways. The true iceberg is the one after this one and all the other ones hiding out at sea we will get to after we finish smashing into this one.

        Why the fuck is everyone so afraid of change or trying things different.

        “This is the way”, screw that, we aren’t caricatures.

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            Just like the arguments that we must simply accept that there is no options other than continuing exactly as is or exactly as is but more proudful.

            There is a lot of complex issues boiled down to nothing to do about it other than huge sweeping options or nothing at all and it’s exhausting.