Got this creepy bullshit in the mail today.
Glad I voted for Harris/Walz
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Creepy af. Doubt they meant it to sound quite so sinister but still that’s too far.
Why doubt? The party has made it part of their platform to distrust the voting process. It sounds like a threat because it is one.
Honestly doesn’t this sort of message actually help Democrats more than anything? Do they not realize the GOP has no chance if the voter turnout increases? Even if that circumstance might favor Trump, they’d be torn to shreds in the senate and governor races.
They might target it to specific areas. The gerrymandering software is so good this days, with access to all the data you can predict pretty accurately how any area is going to vote
Every breath you take
Every vote you make…
It’s weird that this is public record
They’re 100% implying your family (husband) will know who you voted for, so you better vote “correctly”.
It does say, prominently, “Who you vote for is secret.”
That screams cya. Everything else implies they see you. I received an email by them once that at the end had the sleeping with the fishes capiche line. Literally with no context/reason beyond making it sound like a threat.
I got one that sounded even more threatening. Said your voting record is public, which is sketchy as fuck and implies who you vote for is public as well, but skirts actually saying it. It does, however, not explicitly say who you for for is secret either.
Casual Ohio voter suppression, nbd.
Cards against humanity has a sticker for that
Never knew republicans thrived on increased turnout. Glad they’re still sticking with this democratic principle ig.
It doesn’t really read the same when coming from Democrats, though. Both sides are not the same, and only one of them has been known for making threats of political violence.
I know, I’m saying I was pleasantly surprised to hear that the campaign wants increased turnout in the first place.
I can’t stress enough that it does read the same. I got one from a dem org and though it was formatted differently, the wording was the same. It basically ended with “we will be checking to see if you vote this year”. It was gross and felt invasive even though I have no reason to be scared at all, even if my whole ballot was public. I can only imagine how some immigrants or people in abusive households took this.
Republicans need young men to turn out; from what I can see, they are trending conservative. They don’t want young women to turn out, because they are trending overwhelmingly liberal.
Disgusting. Highly infuriating.
the message aside, this is one of the shittiest designs I’ve seen. the text is all over the place, there’s no clear hierarchy of information… what a mess.
But… there’s a starburst.
Sounds on brand.
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Fascist big brother is always watching, loyalty is the only principle they value.
Please tell me you picked this image on purpose.
Just outside the voting location, a giant billboard that says, “Vote yes, says the terrifying building sized gremlin of the state”
Obedience. Loyalty is earned.
i think it’s all going to come down to how badly do women not want to be wholly owned by their MAGAt men. that’s going to determine whether the american project was successfully killed by putin.
Unfortunately, a lot of women have been brainwashed to think that it’s only “the others” that they’re after and that they’re safe. Even Hispanic Women are still voting for Trump because “it’s only the illegals”. They don’t realize it’s not about that, it’s about creating a group that is “other” to blame. And once all the “illegals” are gone and things aren’t any better they’ll continue to the rest of the Hispanic people. Once their children need an abortion to save their lives, they’ll be the ones in the funeral homes.
Yes… Counting on white women to beat American fascism. I’m so hopeful.
The other commenter said nothing about color, weird take.
Educated take, consider getting one sometime.
Both parties are running these style ads in my area.
This is BY FAR the creepiest iteration I’ve seen.
Both parties are running these style ads in my area.
please post examples of the dems doing this, I’d like to see what kind of rhetoric they’re deploying.
Have seen NOTHING like this from the left in my corner of the country.
I’ve mostly seen YouTube ads so not sure how to share those here. I happened to get another postcard today though, with the exact same wording is the one I linked to elsewhere in this thread:
If you look at votingmatters.org it says:
Paid for by the Democratic National Committee (202) 863-8000
This communication is not authorized by any candidate or candidate’s committee.Don’t wanna doxx myself because the mailers are all region specific, but I can assure you they are coming from dems too. I’m a dem voter and I got one and googled it. I even looked at the org that’s behind it and the CEO was chief of staff for a dem and the employees donated to left wing candidates and the org comes up as highly rated on charity navigator. I called them to say that this seems like a right wing scare tactic so I was surprised to see it used on a left of center orgs mailers. Obviously there is nothing the rep could do, but hopefully if enough people call in they will change this. I’m still concerned that this left wing org is somehow secretly right wing because the mailer rubbed me the wrong way so much.
I got two from a local WA Dem organization. I got them right after I voted and the rhetoric seems to be along the lines of “don’t forget to turn in your ballot!” Nothing specific on the first. The second one was more specific and showed a table of the last four elections and whether or not a vote was cast.
I’ll try to remember to post a pic later.I wonder if it’s proximity to a swing state… safely blue state here, I could vote red 20 times and it wouldn’t even register. still going to vote blue.
thank you for the links above!
I didn’t vote for my local da because she ran unopposed (and she excused a cop for wrongdoing when he shot a kid in the back)
Need to see it to see the tone. Saying “your vote is secret” can be taken a good way.
This is the first clearly partisan one I’ve seen.
Mostly I’ve seen them as videos that plainly state. “Who you vote for is secret. Whether you vote is public record”. I did get one handwritten postcard saying the same.
I found them mostly “interesting” as a concept, but others have felt they’re threatening:
The first one I saw I looked up the “Paid for by…” entity and it was a Kamala PAC so I just kinda assumed they all were before seeing this.
People are crazy. Feeling threatened by telling someone “hey, you didn’t vote last time. Please make your voice heard by voting” is wearing your persecution complex on your sleeve.
Fragile fucks.
Its none of there business to tell someone to vote. I strongly think we need solid privacy protections for voters. Keeping it private and independent will help with our democracy in general.
It is a little over the top bringing its a threat but I see where they are coming from. I imagine any parent would be a little annoyed to have they child get stalked by a political party.
Yeah I don’t think that’s a threat, poorly worded maybe. The Trump one was hinting at it (because plausible deniability is how they work).
The point is that both sides have lost there minds. Trying to pretend that the Democrats are somehow less worse is silly. Call them out for what it is. That’s the only way you will see change.
Saying “your vote is private” isn’t a threat.
“But the fact that you voted is pubic record” implies “we’re paying attention and could hassle in some form those who abstain if we choose.”
(Well, that’d be the argument for “threat” in the above text anyway. Imo threat or not it’s poorly worded leading to it being creepy, but that’s probably the extent of it. I doubt we’ll see any side round up and execute abstainers or some crazy shit like that.)
Seriously?
implies
What is implied depends on the tone in which it is said.
From the GOP that “whether or not you vote is public record” in a sudden red text, and “your family friends and coworkers will know”, along with fucking binoculars carries a very sinister tone.
The Dems “Thank you!” and “Please vote” does not. The whether you vote is public record looks to me pretty matter of fact. Why it’s even said is a bit out of place, which is what I said was poorly worded.
This is not “both sides same” like the other guy suggested.
Not sure which party, but I’ve been getting the same notice in the mail every ~3 days with this message and my voting record listed all the way back to 2016 for the past two weeks. Honestly not sure if it’s an attempt to intimidate me to vote a certain way because it sure is going beyond “people will know if you voted” to kind of insinuating they’ll know who I vote for. Fail point is I don’t know acronyms for political groups so I’m not sure which one they’re trying to get me to vote for lol
I can’t wait for when everyone’s data gets leaked. Both sides collect huge amounts of data and do highly targeted campaigns.
remember when the GOP trove got leaked in 2016? I downloaded that shit just to see what they had on me. They were wrong about a lot.
Yeah but (IME) the Democrat version is essentially: No one will know if you vote Kamala, even your likely abusive maga spouse. (Edit- https://www.salon.com/2024/10/31/it-is-so-disastrous-maga-men-are-freaking-out-that-wives-may-be-secretly-voting-for-kamala-harris/)
The R version is apparently: Those of you who didn’t vote will be up against the wall if Kamala gets in because it will be your fault. Busybody neighbors are important to ensure Trump gets in again, we’re watching you.
I commented elsewhere in this thread, but I’m sad to report that the dem ones are not good either. They’re probably not as bad as the Trump ones, but the message is still gross and I received one from a dem org that had me looking up the owners and donors because it looked like a right wing scare tactic to me.
Just because information is public doesn’t mean using it is a good strategy. I think this was a bad choice for dems.
You’re getting very different sorts of Democrat mailers than I am then
I could take her…
you let them push you around. try pushing back.
I’m not getting “pushed around” by this. And I already voted for Harris.
good! but still, why do they get to be the ones who do all the intimidation? i think it’s time we made them scared.
Because they’re shitty people and threats and intimidation are the only way they can win. We don’t do the same thing, because we are better than them. Stooping to their level would make us just as bad.
lol. so naive.
It’s not naïvety, it’s something called integrity.
let me know how that integrity works out when your face is under their boot.
Better than turning into one of them
Oh, is that what beat 40’s fascism?
I thought it was the power of incredible violence.
Except we didn’t have to genocide 15 million people in order to get that result.
And you’re assuming both sides are the same, which they very clearly are not.
Stooping to their level on campaign tactics would not make us just as bad, because our means are equal and the ends we want to achieve are nobler than theirs.
If A=B and C>D, then A+C > B+D
Both sides are not the same, therefore your logical equation is flawed.
A!=B
The operating word here is “Would”. This is a hypothetical.
Whether or not it hypothetical is irrelevant. Your logic is flawed, and so, therefore, is your conclusion.
I’ve gotten the same from dnc, just without the picture of a person on it
Really not a great look for liberals, considering Harris/Walz have literally sent handwritten postcards saying the exact same thing to threaten their base.
They really have abandoned all reality lmfao.
Ha! This clown is talking about Postcards for Democrats, a grassroots organization of volunteers reminding registered Democrats to vote for their local Democratic candidates. Super threatening to … nazis, I guess?
What have we come to. Voting should be absolutely private.
It is still kinda (I’m assuming there’s some record federally for verification or something, but…), just don’t tell anyone.
Anytime someone asks me I say I’m voting for A Turkey Sandwich, or Bugs Bunny, or “Your Mom,” etc, just something dismissive that sends the hint “that’s private, quit asking.”
pics or it didn’t happen
I prefer the French Left take on the idea. They did a campaign awhile back titled: “The fascists are voting, are you?” With a big portrait of the most well-known far right politician in the country. In the end they had to pay a 3000€ fine but I’d say it was worth it.
3000€ seems like barely a drop in the bucket of campaigning costs, totally worth it lol. To the point that’s not even a disincentive.
Problem is that’s how Elon and others are getting away with shit. Drops in buckets fines are the cost of business for them and it’s working quite well.
