yeah this news is only disappointing for people who buy new computers every year (is that even a thing?). Whatever upgrades it has will also feature the last 4+ years of updates, so to someone coming from an M4 yeah yikes. But for my m1 max? it will be noticeable.
My 2018 Mac mini (the last model with upgradable ram) has 64gb and it’s way faster than any m4 without 64gb. I will keep it until it’s completely untenable to do so. Minimum 10 years, I’m hoping I can manage 15-20. Maybe by then I’ll actually be able to afford a new Mac with 64gb or more.
I’m dead serious. CPU and GPU ceased being bottlenecks for most non gaming or video editing workflows a long time ago. The only one left is RAM, and Apple exploits that. By now all Macs should have 64gb as minimum config based on the actual part costs.
Id love to see you show it being loads faster than an M4. Aside from the huge CPU and GPU improvements the ram is 2-3x faster. And the storage is loads faster Maybe you’re running virtual machines or something reliant on much more memory. Even then I’d bet you’d get significant (2-4x) improvements with the M4.
Maybe you’re being hyperbolic and it’s going over my head!
I’m not being hyperbolic. The only thing that affects my performance is swap. On my 64gb 2018 mini, everything is instant. On my 16gb 2020 MacBook, even just opening more than 100 browser tabs makes the whole computer unusable. Give me a 16gb m4 and I will happily record a video for you of a usual day at about 40gb memory consumption and send it back.
yeah this news is only disappointing for people who buy new computers every year (is that even a thing?). Whatever upgrades it has will also feature the last 4+ years of updates, so to someone coming from an M4 yeah yikes. But for my m1 max? it will be noticeable.
The only upgrade that matters for most non-gaming or video production use cases any more is RAM anyway.
True… I still regularly use my 2008 17” MBP and it’s always the RAM that’s the limiting factor.
My 2018 Mac mini (the last model with upgradable ram) has 64gb and it’s way faster than any m4 without 64gb. I will keep it until it’s completely untenable to do so. Minimum 10 years, I’m hoping I can manage 15-20. Maybe by then I’ll actually be able to afford a new Mac with 64gb or more.
I can’t tell how serious this is.
I’m dead serious. CPU and GPU ceased being bottlenecks for most non gaming or video editing workflows a long time ago. The only one left is RAM, and Apple exploits that. By now all Macs should have 64gb as minimum config based on the actual part costs.
Id love to see you show it being loads faster than an M4. Aside from the huge CPU and GPU improvements the ram is 2-3x faster. And the storage is loads faster Maybe you’re running virtual machines or something reliant on much more memory. Even then I’d bet you’d get significant (2-4x) improvements with the M4.
Maybe you’re being hyperbolic and it’s going over my head!
I’m not being hyperbolic. The only thing that affects my performance is swap. On my 64gb 2018 mini, everything is instant. On my 16gb 2020 MacBook, even just opening more than 100 browser tabs makes the whole computer unusable. Give me a 16gb m4 and I will happily record a video for you of a usual day at about 40gb memory consumption and send it back.