The decision, which was first reported by NBC News, is a reversal for the president, who repeatedly said he would not use his authority to pardon his son or commute his sentence.
Sure, but it was also the minimum they could convict him with in hopes to stop the investigations before they implicated the president and the rest of the family. He was the sacrificial lamb.
It’ll be interesting to see if Congress calls him back to testify next year, since presumably he has no 5th amendment rights to claim to prevent testifying. And if he lies, his pardon won’t cover that or other future crimes.
Are you pretending to be wildly uninformed, or just a bad actor refusing to acknowledge the alleged influence peddling operation this entire thing was about?
That was to stop investigations writ large, it was not specific to Ukraine.
You might as well say Joe Biden pardoned his son for any crimes he commited on the moon. Or for being one of the definitely-real 2000 Mules, or for helping manufacture Covid in Wuhan.
He’s pardoned from all of those too. Which means he did them all, right? Biden is promoting all those conspiracies too!
The pardon specifically set the start date for the day Hunter started at Burisma in Ukraine, which is ground zero for the bribery and influence peddling scandal. Not quite the tenuous connection you claim.
You working for a government or private astroturf farm?
I can use Google to inform myself, you should try it yourself. And the wikipedia article is pretty clear that the burisma connection is a conspiracy theory. Or do you have any proof for your theory?
So we’re gonna let Google and Wikipedia determine what’s true? Two big tech companies widely known for their collaboration with and manipulation by government and corporate narrative control?
Hunter Biden already provided the proof with his emails. He left evidence all over the place. And now that he no longer has any rights to claim the fifth amendment when being questioned for these crimes, we might finally get some answers.
But I’m not quite clear why the president openly pardoning for crimes during the period of this scandal isn’t enough of a smoking gun. A presidential signature acknowledging these crimes for the world to see takes us waaaaay past the point of “conspiracy,” and eclipses your Wikipedia-based denial.
it was also the minimum they could convict him with in hopes to stop the investigations before they implicated the president
Literally what are you talking about. This wouldn’t have stopped future investigations, and unless you’re suggesting Biden held Hunter Biden’s hand and helped him grasp the pen that checked that box, there’s no sense in which he was implicated.
It’s extremely common in corporate and political criminal schemes to throw a sacrificial lamb under the bus to attempt to satisfy calls for accountability. Hunter already outed himself by leaving a trail of evidence across the globe, and given his position as the bagman was presumably set up to take the fall from the beginning.
What’s funny is Joe may have inadvertently fucked himself with this pardon, because he just revoked Hunter’s right to refuse to answer questions under the fifth amendment as he’s not at risk of prosecution.
I hope they don’t drop it. We deserve some answers.
Sure, but it was also the minimum they could convict him with in hopes to stop the investigations before they implicated the president and the rest of the family. He was the sacrificial lamb.
It’ll be interesting to see if Congress calls him back to testify next year, since presumably he has no 5th amendment rights to claim to prevent testifying. And if he lies, his pardon won’t cover that or other future crimes.
The minimum? As far as I know cases like that get usually dropped. And in what should they implicate the president?
Maybe at the state level. Not federal.
Are you pretending to be wildly uninformed, or just a bad actor refusing to acknowledge the alleged influence peddling operation this entire thing was about?
What is this alleged “influence peddling operation”?
Hunter Biden was reportedly accepting bribes in Ukraine on behalf of his father.
Ah, the Biden Ukraine Conspiracy Theory. . Seems to be a load of bullshit by Republicans and Putin…
Ahh, so in this comment you’re pretending to be informed?
You know who else is promoting this conspiracy? Joe Biden for pardoning his son for crimes related to it.
That was to stop investigations writ large, it was not specific to Ukraine.
You might as well say Joe Biden pardoned his son for any crimes he commited on the moon. Or for being one of the definitely-real 2000 Mules, or for helping manufacture Covid in Wuhan.
He’s pardoned from all of those too. Which means he did them all, right? Biden is promoting all those conspiracies too!
The pardon specifically set the start date for the day Hunter started at Burisma in Ukraine, which is ground zero for the bribery and influence peddling scandal. Not quite the tenuous connection you claim.
You working for a government or private astroturf farm?
I can use Google to inform myself, you should try it yourself. And the wikipedia article is pretty clear that the burisma connection is a conspiracy theory. Or do you have any proof for your theory?
So we’re gonna let Google and Wikipedia determine what’s true? Two big tech companies widely known for their collaboration with and manipulation by government and corporate narrative control?
Hunter Biden already provided the proof with his emails. He left evidence all over the place. And now that he no longer has any rights to claim the fifth amendment when being questioned for these crimes, we might finally get some answers.
But I’m not quite clear why the president openly pardoning for crimes during the period of this scandal isn’t enough of a smoking gun. A presidential signature acknowledging these crimes for the world to see takes us waaaaay past the point of “conspiracy,” and eclipses your Wikipedia-based denial.
Literally what are you talking about. This wouldn’t have stopped future investigations, and unless you’re suggesting Biden held Hunter Biden’s hand and helped him grasp the pen that checked that box, there’s no sense in which he was implicated.
It’s extremely common in corporate and political criminal schemes to throw a sacrificial lamb under the bus to attempt to satisfy calls for accountability. Hunter already outed himself by leaving a trail of evidence across the globe, and given his position as the bagman was presumably set up to take the fall from the beginning.
What’s funny is Joe may have inadvertently fucked himself with this pardon, because he just revoked Hunter’s right to refuse to answer questions under the fifth amendment as he’s not at risk of prosecution.
I hope they don’t drop it. We deserve some answers.