• ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    24 hours ago

    Where’s all these people when Ketamine is mentioned saying “no you can’t use it in hospitals on people because Vetaket exists” huh? It’s wild watching the world completely accept that Ketamine or Amoxicilin etc can be used on animals and humans, but then be completely propagandized that this one particular dewormer only works on equidae even though it’s been used as a human dewormer since its existence. Sure it does fuck all against covid and claims to the contrary should be shot down but “HoRsE” isn’t it, “viruses aren’t worms” is better.

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      7 hours ago

      When we are talking about its efficacy against covid, it is utterly irrelevant whether Ivermectin has some other use. For covid, it is a quack remedy.

      Now, just to spell it out even more for you and some others who keep sidestepping the point:

      Use of any treatment that is not efficacious for a given condition risks diverting people from the use of treatments that are efficacious. That means those people will be at higher risk of sickness and death, since the treatment they are taking doesn’t work.

      A treatment that is efficacious for some entirely different purpose is still not efficacious for some other condition, unless and until it is proven so by research.

      Whether that different purpose involves horses, people or fucking marmosets is irrelevant. We’re not talking about that. We’re talking about a particular condition that has nothing to do with the on-label use.

      So it’s not clear to me what you are struggling with here. OTHER USES ARE IRRELEVANT TO THE QUESTION OF WHETHER IT WORKS FOR THE PURPOSE ACTUALLY BEING DISCUSSED. End of.

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        4 hours ago

        And none of that negates that the “it’s only for horses” people are wrong. This seems to be the main disconnect, you hear “actually, it’s good for parasites in humans as well” as “burn vaccines take horse pills.”

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      1 day ago

      To me it’s literally akin to “Corn is used in cow feed” therefore “Corn is only for cows”.
      It’s asinine and stupid.
      Now the clarification could be that “Lesser grade corn is used in cow feed” therefore “you shouldn’t eat cow feed”.

      But that’s never the claim anytime I see “horse dewormer ivermectin” and never has any evidence been provided that it’s any different quality or type of ivermectin in the horse paste. Even if that difference in “quality” would even matter to begin with especially since the drug has been open marketed for so long and it’s production commoditized so much. I wouldn’t doubt for a moment that the same fucking factory pumps out both pill and whatever gets mixed into the horse paste… probably just the original pill product in powder form.