A conversation between Secretary of State Antony Blinken and the Republican senator offered an "incredible historical document" showing how the U.S. views its role in the Middle East.
The Tiktok ban, that was first proposed in Jan 2020, and was banned from government devices in Dec 2022, was getting first drafts for laws banned in Dec 2022, another law was proposed to block in nationwide in Jan 2023, was further restricted in March of 2023, and was signed into law to banned Tiktok nation wide on April 2023 (to be completely removed by Jan 2025) is solely being done to censor information about a conflict that started in Oct 2023…
If you make the point simpler it works. “We are banning tiktok because it is a social media platform we have no ability to censor” with this in mind it makes sense to say “its because of isreal-palastine” because that is just a facet of not having control over platform censorship.
If you really believe that when they say they are getting rid of tiktok it is for national security you’re a fucking rube, they have been taking away our freedoms for decades under the guise of national security, they sure as fuck dont consider it any sort of threat that any of the American social media platform would sell your data do a hostile foreign power. They want it gone because A) they cannot control what spreads on it, and B) their rich owners arnt profiting from it.
If you want to argue that any social media platform dying is a good thing, then i can at least sympathize (thought id argue this isnt a step in the direction of getting rid of social media in general), but if you think banning tiktok is about anything more than corruption you’re a rube.
If you make the point simpler it works. “We are banning tiktok because it is a social media platform we have no ability to censor”
I won’t argue against that.
with this in mind it makes sense to say “its because of isreal-palastine” because that is just a facet of not having control over platform censorship.
This part is illogical though. Claiming that due to a future event, we went back in time to block/and-or control a message makes no sense. This was my entire point. They are blocking it for many reasons and have been for years, but claiming the whole reason they spent years attempting to block it because of a single event that happened years later makes no sense.
single event that happened years later makes no sense.
The genocide of palestinians didn’t begin in 2022. And the above commenter is correct, the US wants full control of its social media in order to spread pro-US foreign policy views, and tiktok is a threat to that.
Never said it did. I did say/indicate that it was never a social/political issue until 2023. Things can happen for a long time, but take a sudden change to make it a big issue.
In fact, please, I would love to see anything political about Israel/Palestine in US politics/policy attempting/intended to make Israel look better on regards to Palestine (as is implied in the article) that predates Oct 2023. As you’ve, and others, have pointed out (I already knew, since it dates to biblical times), that it’s been an issue for so long, then this should be simple. It keeps trying to be pointed out that the Oct 2023 event seemed to mean nothing about it, so you or anyone else should have no problems with this.
Bonus points for showing how it relates to Tiktok before that date too, which again with everyone’s insistence about it, should be no problems at all.
You misunderstand, I am saying that the original idea can be about inability to control. Then seeing anti isreal sentiment on tiktok, and you can say “see we were right, this is what we knew would happen”.
Or in other words, congress doesnt exist in a time void, they have the ability to predict future outcomes and legislate against them. You dont have to know isreal palastine is going to be the new thing, but you know that there will be a next thing and 100% it will play poorly if you cant control the narrative (i.e. lie to people)
The law was April 2024, so you know, after October 2023. The sudden political push to get that done instead of stall out line 2020-2023 is what’s being talking about.
You referenced March 2023 as a restriction though, so it seems like you were aware. Between March 2023 and April 2024 something changed the political momentum, which is plainly stated, though you’re refuting with what appears to be an incorrect timeline.
I referenced March 2023, because it’s when the RESTRICT act passed which limited Tiktok. I also referenced April 2023 as a total public ban because I mixed it with the date that Montana banned public usage of Tiktok, which was followed by 2024 bill “Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act”, being a public ban like Montana, but also close to the RESTRICT act. Similar acts, close dates.
And I am only refuting what the article is claiming, that the Tiktok banned is solely about improving the image of Israel in regards to Palestine, because until Oct 2023, it wasn’t US political issue so wouldn’t have had anything to do with the ban. There never was a reference to anything about israel, Palestine, and Tiktok before that date. Which is the opposite of what this article claims.
Which is the opposite of what this article claims.
It is an article from May 2024 describing where Blinken and Romney explictly state the political push to get the law passed was directly influenced by TikTok demonstrating pro-Palestinian perspectives.
Also of note they didn’t rule out extending similar action to entities similar to TikTok.
So let me get this straight…
The Tiktok ban, that was first proposed in Jan 2020, and was banned from government devices in Dec 2022, was getting first drafts for laws banned in Dec 2022, another law was proposed to block in nationwide in Jan 2023, was further restricted in March of 2023, and was signed into law to banned Tiktok nation wide on April 2023 (to be completely removed by Jan 2025) is solely being done to censor information about a conflict that started in Oct 2023…
Yeah, check outs. 👍
If you make the point simpler it works. “We are banning tiktok because it is a social media platform we have no ability to censor” with this in mind it makes sense to say “its because of isreal-palastine” because that is just a facet of not having control over platform censorship.
If you really believe that when they say they are getting rid of tiktok it is for national security you’re a fucking rube, they have been taking away our freedoms for decades under the guise of national security, they sure as fuck dont consider it any sort of threat that any of the American social media platform would sell your data do a hostile foreign power. They want it gone because A) they cannot control what spreads on it, and B) their rich owners arnt profiting from it.
If you want to argue that any social media platform dying is a good thing, then i can at least sympathize (thought id argue this isnt a step in the direction of getting rid of social media in general), but if you think banning tiktok is about anything more than corruption you’re a rube.
I won’t argue against that.
This part is illogical though. Claiming that due to a future event, we went back in time to block/and-or control a message makes no sense. This was my entire point. They are blocking it for many reasons and have been for years, but claiming the whole reason they spent years attempting to block it because of a single event that happened years later makes no sense.
The genocide of palestinians didn’t begin in 2022. And the above commenter is correct, the US wants full control of its social media in order to spread pro-US foreign policy views, and tiktok is a threat to that.
Never said it did. I did say/indicate that it was never a social/political issue until 2023. Things can happen for a long time, but take a sudden change to make it a big issue.
In fact, please, I would love to see anything political about Israel/Palestine in US politics/policy attempting/intended to make Israel look better on regards to Palestine (as is implied in the article) that predates Oct 2023. As you’ve, and others, have pointed out (I already knew, since it dates to biblical times), that it’s been an issue for so long, then this should be simple. It keeps trying to be pointed out that the Oct 2023 event seemed to mean nothing about it, so you or anyone else should have no problems with this.
Bonus points for showing how it relates to Tiktok before that date too, which again with everyone’s insistence about it, should be no problems at all.
You misunderstand, I am saying that the original idea can be about inability to control. Then seeing anti isreal sentiment on tiktok, and you can say “see we were right, this is what we knew would happen”.
Or in other words, congress doesnt exist in a time void, they have the ability to predict future outcomes and legislate against them. You dont have to know isreal palastine is going to be the new thing, but you know that there will be a next thing and 100% it will play poorly if you cant control the narrative (i.e. lie to people)
The law was April 2024, so you know, after October 2023. The sudden political push to get that done instead of stall out line 2020-2023 is what’s being talking about.
Sorry, I confused it with to the RESTRICT act (Mar 2023), which is similar to the 2024 law.
You referenced March 2023 as a restriction though, so it seems like you were aware. Between March 2023 and April 2024 something changed the political momentum, which is plainly stated, though you’re refuting with what appears to be an incorrect timeline.
I referenced March 2023, because it’s when the RESTRICT act passed which limited Tiktok. I also referenced April 2023 as a total public ban because I mixed it with the date that Montana banned public usage of Tiktok, which was followed by 2024 bill “Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act”, being a public ban like Montana, but also close to the RESTRICT act. Similar acts, close dates.
And I am only refuting what the article is claiming, that the Tiktok banned is solely about improving the image of Israel in regards to Palestine, because until Oct 2023, it wasn’t US political issue so wouldn’t have had anything to do with the ban. There never was a reference to anything about israel, Palestine, and Tiktok before that date. Which is the opposite of what this article claims.
It is an article from May 2024 describing where Blinken and Romney explictly state the political push to get the law passed was directly influenced by TikTok demonstrating pro-Palestinian perspectives.
Also of note they didn’t rule out extending similar action to entities similar to TikTok.
I don’t think it’s the reason
The Israelis have effectively been committing genocide in slow motion for decades
The real reason is the American Oligarchs don’t like foreign competition to their data collection.