"It is not Trump—just as it was not Biden or Harris—who decides what the Palestinians can or cannot do," Abandon Harris' Hudhayfah Ahmad told Newsweek.
Muslims were a key swing vote in key swing states like Michigan and Wisconsin.
More importantly, the dems might have actually won if they had taken this opportunity to show that they were capable of listening to and learning from their constituents.
Trump demonstrated that he could grow and adapt from his previous term while the dems insisted on dictating terms and asserting that everything was fine without room for criticism or growth.
This is proven by the data. Every poll on the subject reflected the sentiment that, had Harris split from Biden on Israel-Gaza, more would vote Harris. This was known before the election. This data was ignored. People were screaming for their rights up to the last second. Many (not all) still voted Harris. And now they are getting screamed down for still having the gall to express their anger at humans being treated as animals. It feels hopeless. The white moderate liberal has no shame or empathy.
If the Palestinian vote was enough to sway the election, then the amount of Jewish people who would have done the same if any presidential candidate came out in strong support of Palestine, has to be at least an order of magnitude higher.
I am not equating the two positions, I am simply talking about campaign strategy.
I don’t think you understand the stranglehold that the Israel lobby has on US politics.
If you believe that appealing to voters no matter what is always the right thing for politicians then you must love Donald Trump. Because he appealed to voters better than Harris.
I think you think Jewish people are all pro-Israel which is ignorant at best. Bigotry at worst.
Oh look another straw man. Like it’s their only move… No, I do not think that. I don’t believe I’ve said anything to imply that I do.
But I do know how much money and power that lobby throws around, and I’ve seen it destroy political careers overnight. The ADL would have tanked Harris’ campaign had she come out in support of Palestine prior to Election Day. Like I don’t think you people understand just how complex the political calculus here is… And you can sit on your high horse and say, “people shouldn’t be doing political calculus when genocide is ongoing,” and that’s certainly a solid point, but the reality is that they do and that they have to if they want to have a chance of winning.
In fact, a day or two before Election Day, she seemed to have signaled that she would be tougher on Israel, but it was too little, too late. I suspect she waited until the last moment so as to not give the Israel lobby enough time to kill her campaign.
I believe that Harris would have listened to Palestinian voices had she won (rather than putting them in camps)
All of the talk of civil rights being America’s priority has fallen short in the face of our economic priorities and our proclivity to agitate for war.
We have designed a society where empathy is scarce. A society overworked and without the bandwidth for most to process how their actions impact people on the other side of the globe.
Sometimes you’ve gotta skip out on the bullshit to live life and learn for yourself. All of these increases in productivity, and yet we have less and less time to be human and stitch together our society.
Muslims were a key swing vote in key swing states like Michigan and Wisconsin.
More importantly, the dems might have actually won if they had taken this opportunity to show that they were capable of listening to and learning from their constituents.
Trump demonstrated that he could grow and adapt from his previous term while the dems insisted on dictating terms and asserting that everything was fine without room for criticism or growth.
Improve and grow.
Listen and adapt.
Do better.
This is proven by the data. Every poll on the subject reflected the sentiment that, had Harris split from Biden on Israel-Gaza, more would vote Harris. This was known before the election. This data was ignored. People were screaming for their rights up to the last second. Many (not all) still voted Harris. And now they are getting screamed down for still having the gall to express their anger at humans being treated as animals. It feels hopeless. The white moderate liberal has no shame or empathy.
If the Palestinian vote was enough to sway the election, then the amount of Jewish people who would have done the same if any presidential candidate came out in strong support of Palestine, has to be at least an order of magnitude higher.
I am not equating the two positions, I am simply talking about campaign strategy.
I don’t think you understand the stranglehold that the Israel lobby has on US politics.
If you believe that appealing to voters no matter what is always the right thing for politicians then you must love Donald Trump. Because he appealed to voters better than Harris.
Can you people have a single exchange without creating at least one straw man?
Jewish people do not default to Israel’s side.
Never said they did.
Not trying to be rude, but y’all are dumb.
I think you think Jewish people are all pro-Israel which is ignorant at best. Bigotry at worst.
Again the data proved this. These were polls of voters in general, not pro-Palestinians. American Jews were absolutely represented by the polls.
Oh look another straw man. Like it’s their only move… No, I do not think that. I don’t believe I’ve said anything to imply that I do.
But I do know how much money and power that lobby throws around, and I’ve seen it destroy political careers overnight. The ADL would have tanked Harris’ campaign had she come out in support of Palestine prior to Election Day. Like I don’t think you people understand just how complex the political calculus here is… And you can sit on your high horse and say, “people shouldn’t be doing political calculus when genocide is ongoing,” and that’s certainly a solid point, but the reality is that they do and that they have to if they want to have a chance of winning.
In fact, a day or two before Election Day, she seemed to have signaled that she would be tougher on Israel, but it was too little, too late. I suspect she waited until the last moment so as to not give the Israel lobby enough time to kill her campaign.
I believe that Harris would have listened to Palestinian voices had she won (rather than putting them in camps)
This better explains your position than your previous comment. Thank you and I do apologize for any mischaracterization.
Thank you for commenting, friend.
All of the talk of civil rights being America’s priority has fallen short in the face of our economic priorities and our proclivity to agitate for war.
We have designed a society where empathy is scarce. A society overworked and without the bandwidth for most to process how their actions impact people on the other side of the globe.
Sometimes you’ve gotta skip out on the bullshit to live life and learn for yourself. All of these increases in productivity, and yet we have less and less time to be human and stitch together our society.