• Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz
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    23 hours ago

    Current political stage is more left vs right, progressive vs conservative, woke vs antiwoke. Russia is ally of conservatives, because their politics are far right conservative.

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      15 hours ago

      I think you’re missing proletariat vs. bourgeoisie. The tarrifs are a direct attack from each capitalist nation on its working class. They do not net negatively hurt capital. On the contrary they allow a manufacturing of concent for further suffering the working class of each nation will endure while the capitalist class of each nation will further strengthen the nationalism of each country. And further concentrate wealth in fewer hands.

      “America first”, “Buy European”, etc. These are all excuses to further worsen the material conditions of its people, build it’s nationalism and xenophobia, and build concent for more war.

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      19 hours ago

      That’s not quite right. Russia is not conservative in the American sense of the term, although they are far right in terms of authoritarian rule. They’re an oligarchy. But their 10-year psy-op against American conservatives has been incredibly successful. They are up to their eyeballs in Russian conditioning and behavioral modification.

      It’s actually incredibly impressive. Turns out that Russia won the Cold War, and their greatest former adversaries (American conservatives) ended up being the United States’ weakest link at the end of the game. Endlessly fascinating stuff.

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        15 hours ago

        They are ultra conservative in internal politics and in public opinion, which is of course controlled by their state controlled media.

        Russia’s internal policies are wet dreams of American conservatives.

        Much of this situation is because of the Russian long running psyop campaign against American public opinion. Dividing nations is default Russian psyop playbook. They have been done that all over the world, and they are proud of it.

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          Yes, they have that “social conservativism” that has become the shared obsession of the American right thanks to Russia’s brilliant disinfo and behavioral modification campaign.

          I just meant that, economically, they do not share American conservative values. For example, the typical poor Russian can’t just work their way up the social ladder, start their own business, hit it big, own a bunch of property, etc. You must be born into it, full stop. This is the piece that American conservatives fail to understand in their Russian aspirations, and why, at the end of the day, they really do not want to be Russian despite what they’ve been brainwashed to believe.