• Tedesche@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    ??? Did you even read the article you posted?

    The study does not directly attribute the deaths to covid-19. Instead, excess mortality refers to the overall rate of deaths exceeding what would be expected from historical trends.

    The excess death rates between groups could be affected by other factors, such as differences in education, race, ethnicity, underlying conditions and access to health care, said Wallace, an assistant professor at the Yale School of Public Health and the lead author.

    “We’re not saying that if you took someone’s political party affiliation and were to change it from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party that they would be more likely to die from covid-19,” Wallace said.

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      1 year ago

      Excess deaths can be anything including say blood clots causing organ damage long after you had covid, because who knows what the long term effects were. So you didn’t die directly because of covid, but can easily be caused by covid (and not counted). That’s kind of why it’s measured. But you can also say excess deaths were from not having random doctors visits and randomly catching issues. So no one is willing to say much. But I think it’s pretty apparent that a disease that cause severe health issues is going to cause more than the direct deaths.

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        1 year ago

        Maybe, and I wouldn’t be surprised at all if that was the case, but the point is the study doesn’t actually prove it and it admits that.

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          1 year ago

          It’s never going to be provable, that’s why it’s measured as excess deaths.

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            1 year ago

            I understand the study’s basic methodology. It doesn’t change my point. And I don’t know that it’s never going to be provable. Maybe with enough data we could find a very subtle pattern that proves it. The point is, this study doesn’t, nor do any of the others on their own, but they collectively provide evidence that the hypothesis may be true.

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              1 year ago

              You realise you’ve just described science there. Nothing can ever be conclusively proven, you can only disprove it, or build more evidence for it.