A great deal of my negative experiences in life have been “for the Glory of Christ”
Fuck your imaginary sky men.
Reading, talking to people, thinking, observations, etc.
Religious views: I grew up going to church occasionally (maybe every month or two.) It always seemed fucking weird to me. Like, even my first memories of church I remember thinking along the lines of “wow the adults are all going along with this?” We stopped attending church by the time I was 9-10, and my dislike of religion has only increased since. On the one hand, for those that find it helpful to have a spiritual connection or believe in a higher power, all good. On the other, my social and political worldviews are colored heavily by two main ideas that don’t really mesh with religion, and especially not religion as practiced in the West.
The first view is simply live and let live. Meaning, no one should be legislating or giving a shit about something that in no way affects them. This can get difficult in a larger aspect because there are aspects of the law that affect me, but not directly. For example, even were I to have no kids, I would still argue heavily for strong educational programs because without them things that do affect me, like rates of poverty, crime, etc, go up.
Which brings me to my second point of view, which is “common sense” is probably just about the biggest misnomer in the English language, and few people actually possess it. We legislate and make decisions for fully irrational reasons that are often against our interest, see also, the entire Republican Party for the last 40-50 years. When it comes to these types of decisions, we should focus on rational, evidence based reasoning which often clashes heavily with the way religion works.
For example, combining these two things I believe that nearly all drugs should be decriminalized, regulated, and that as part of a comprehensive overhaul in our healthcare system, addiction prevention/treatment programs and even just safe spaces to do drugs should exist. If I want to do quite a lot of different types of drugs, that doesn’t affect you. Like up until the last 20 years or so, it’s an absurdity that marijuana was illegal everywhere, and still ridiculous there are places that it still is. That said, people who get deep into meth often turn into a societal drag because the addiction takes over, they start stealing, etc. In countries that have stronger focus around healthcare and treatment/prevention rather than policing and incarceration, they generally have more positive outcomes (lower rates of addiction, violent crime, etc.) and thus a better societal outcome for the rest of us. These sorts of policies however almost never get traction in this country though, because as stated above we often don’t react rationally and religion, which is based in virtually direct opposition to these principles, drives far, far too much (eg: > 0) of the conversation.
As for how I got this way, I have no idea. My family background is probably a feature-length Jerry Springer episode so it wasn’t really taught to me. My mind has just kind of always worked this way, and though I’m veering deep into copy-pasta territory, it’s all a lot like feeling really weird in church back when I was like 5.
Raised in a Pentecostal church, which made the real world really hard to deal with. Ended up in public school, which started opening my eyes. Not in the classroom, just in the halls. Joined the Army. Met people from all walks. Saw the failings of policy while in Iraq.
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Through 40 years of details that are impossible to sum up here.
A more narrow question than this might be able to yield an answer but to this question, the totality of my worldview is a result of the totality of my life.
Religion: I was raised Christian but my parents weren’t very observant. I started to see cracks when at my primary school we were taught about god creating the world and the big bang.
When I was 13 my girlfriend died. I turned to the bible for support and after reading it realised it was just fairy tales.
Social and political: I was a punk as a teenager. More due to my love for skateboarding and depression/anger about my girlfriend. But in that culture I started to realise how fucked everything was.
Serveral homeless people would wonder by the skatepark and we’d talk to them. Many of them we’re lovely people who had some sort of awful tragedy happen. I realised how heartless society could be. If you can’t work and function then you have no value. This was reinforced by how people talked about like they were the scum of the earth.
This was the early 00s in a rural county so racism and homophobia were rampant as well. There were probably single digit people if colour I saw in my town but again some used to stop by and chat with us / cheer us on when skating.
Again this showed how horrible the majority of people were.
So my politics became pretty simple. Everyone deserves to live a good life. That view is not very well reflected in the right.
Developing a bullshit detector and having basic empathy. Atheist; friendly to friendly people, hostile to hostile people; believe government should serve the people, never the other way around.
I am currently part of a church that loves these types of questions because it means that I can bear testimony of God and bring the holy spirit into the conversation. I don’t like doing so online with a profile that I try to keep somewhat anonymous.
There are two “science only” reasons for my faith:
- outcomes. Everyone lives longer, has more education, has more wealth, has more kids, but stays away from self medication (alcohol, tobacco, caffeine) so a bunch are on prescription antidepressants. Umm “by their fruits you shall know them” and (last I checked) education in this church is the only one that is positively correlated with church activity.
- pascals wager. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal's_wager
I have struggled with depression myself and have found the best solution is service. Church is a great “batteries included” way to serve. I also have a day of the week where I call up family and ask if I can help with anything. I was able to help my father in law renovate his house by making these calls.
Regarding politics. I hate political party “vendor lock in”. I have no clue how any of the issues get discussed based on how much astroturfing and bought/compromised news outlets. I imagine that my interactions with politicians is like reddit’s “upvote” where it really does nothing unless you sort by new. So I follow the money only.
I was directly programmed by George Soros himself in the secret city on the moon, as all leftists are. Duh.
Religious: I grew up in a deeply religious household, my parents are still very religious and they consider that the cornerstone of their lives. No judgement here, they are great people and I’ve never once seen them use their religion to hurt others. For me, I appreciate the moral lessons I learned in that church and I think it made me a more empathetic person. I just have no particular need for a religion to be a good person. Stopped following any religion in my early 20s.
Social and political: See also 1. Being bullied as a kid made me have a deep rooted hatred for people who harm others, which means I tend to champion oppressed people now. Honestly, however, this should be a normal human thing to do. Beyond that, I tend to have a “live and let live” attitude towards most things so long as you’re not bothering anyone else. I guess that makes me one of those snowflake liberals that are destroying America?
Punk rock made me who I am. Was lucky to grow up in the 90’s with a decent local scene. Taught me to pick people up when the fall (both literally and figuratively) look out for those less fortunate and to never tolerate the intolerant. Get out there and punch a fucking nazi.
- Raised Catholic - was pretty religious when young.
- In adolescence, started questioning things that didn’t make sense to me (e.g., why would God not want people to use birth control if they couldn’t afford kids? Why would he make people have a strong urge for sex but not want them to have it except for babies, and all the more typical things).
- Struggled more and more with things that didn’t make sense to me as I i got older (if God created everything, knows what’s going to happen, etc., how does it make sense to pray for something? Should he changed his plan because I asked really nicely? Etc.).
- Finally realized that all the myriad things that didn’t make sense to me disappeared if it turns out there is no god.
- Free from that notion, everything has clicked into place for me and the world makes more sense. It’s been 40ish years since then.
I was brought up pretty non-religious. I remember in my very young years going to a non-denominational church. There was Sunday school and stuff. We moved across the country when I was 10 years old and family never went to church again. Mom would get a bit deep in it at Christmas with some bible reading. Got to my teenage years, searching for an identity. Tried church and totally was not for me. Too much telling me what and how I’m supposed to think. I’ve been an anti-theist ever since. 35+ years now.