What a nightmarish waste of time.
Also I can see kids outsmarting this thing in two seconds. Just wear a fake beard, a bit of makeup. Boom, Adult.
The proposal also said, “To the extent that there is any risk, it is easily outweighed by the benefits to consumers and businesses of using this [Facial Age Estimation] method.”
What benefits are there to consumers? Here’s one more way you can be denied access.
There has to be zero benefits for all adults, and tbh I don’t see the big risk for minors in accessing entertainment that they’re mature enough to intentionally seek out. Content descriptions and parents communicating with their kids should cover the vast majority of use cases.
All of it of course comes back to parents not actually wanting to parent. The rules are already in place. Literally all you have to do is not buy Timmy the game.
Not quite. The main groups who push this crap, IIRC, tend to be the same groups of far-right evangelicals who insist on homeschooling their children because “public schools are liberal indoctrination” and totally not because they’re trying to isolate their child so it’s easier to abuse them. ~Strawberry
I left my teens a long time ago, but I’m still constantly asked how high school is going for me. There is plenty of risk for an adult with this. Some of us just look like kids forever. 😬
I got ID’d the other day to buy beer. I’m almost 40.
So, let me get this straight. They want to peer into the homes and bedrooms of children all over the world? Gather photographs of them? 😬
And how do they expect this to work on a gaming PC with no camera?
Also, their comment form says not to submit any personally identifiable information, such as your name, and yet it requires you to submit your name, and it says your name will be shown publicly for all to see. To object to a violation of my privacy, I must…allow them to violate my privacy?
What could remotely go wrong with creating a permanently online countrywide database of biometric data?
This is where they get their ideas from.
The image is then uploaded to Yoti’s backend server for estimation
“Images are immediately, permanently deleted, and not used by Yoti for training purposes.”
the facial recognition does not presential a substantial risk to parents’ privacy or potential biases.
“To the extent that there is any risk, it is easily outweighed by the benefits to consumers and businesses of using this [Facial Age Estimation] method.”
Pretty sure only one of those statements can be true. I’d go with “there is a risk”.
There’s no paradox. It says there is a risk, it is not substantial, and the benefits outweigh it.
Meanwhile in reality, the risk is a certainty and the benefits don’t exist.
The paradox is they start claiming no risk… only to step by step admit there is a risk, to end with a “but it’s all fine, trust us”.
Adding that the images are not going to be used for training purposes by them, is like a robber saying “I didn’t break into that store… just the one next door”.
I’m always amazed at the lengths the US game industry will go to on stuff like this rather than just having a proper legally enforceable rating system like PEGI.
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If I submit a comment, my real name will be attached to it and shown to the world in perpetuity. That doesn’t seem safe.
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Watching the decline of the internet in real-time is fucking depressing. How long before the FTC lets google “verify the integrity” of every data center in the US, completely eliminating all hope? Doesn’t even sound that crazy anymore.
So, what happens if you don’t have a video camera hooked up to your console/gaming system of choice? Literally none of mine do. So now I need that as well as the game? Nah, the high seas be callin’, mateys!
“The ESRB has proposed that the FTC greenlight facial recognition technology as a method to detect a user’s age”
So little kids won’t ve able to play GTA San Andreas anymore? 🥺
What about adults that looks extremely young too ?
That was my first thought; I’m 20 but I look quite a bit younger in real life. I could have some trouble trying to play M rated games legitimately if this is widely implemented. One alternative I can see them using is submitting an ID to bypass, but that’s really invasive just to play a video game.
Yeah if I’m gonna get digital-carded to play a video game like I get regular-carded for booze at 34, I will absolutely just start pirating everything.
I’m like 30 I still put my birthday in as 4/20/69 like hell some website needs to know my exact birthday to view a videogame trailer.
I can’t be bothered to even put a meme birthday. I do 1/1 and then flick my scroll wheel down and click wherever it stops.
No games for young people or people of a race that the model was not trained on or anyone with a disfigurement or anyone in a dark room. Ever.
ESRB be dumb as hell.
@drdiddlybadger @LunarticBot well, yeah
Sports game with literal real money gambling = fun for all ages
Game where someone says a naughty word = 17+ kids would be destroyed by foul language
