Meta sneakily introduced “Platform Integrity Attestation API” which basically calls home to see whether the user has a valid license to play.
This means that to run apps user has to have online connection to perform an integrity test. Whether it’s only a test on launch or continues call home like Denuvo-like DRMs is not yet clear. This could also mean that modified headsets could fail to pass this test essentially closing down the device for modifications that could damage “platform integrity”. Not all details are clear yet but this doesn’t look good.
Currently it’s optional and up to app developers to enable it.
No fucking way I’ll consider buying one now.
My consideration was off the table after Facebook bought Oculus.
Or be like me. Get one then Meta buys the company. Z_z
Bad luck man. I would have bought a rift if Facebook didn’t ruin it.
I always wanted one, but when they made it a requirement to have and link a Facebook account to use it I completely lost interest.
I have one. Not long after I bought it, it became a brick because it forced a software update that forced a Facebook sign in to use it.
That requirement has been removed for longer than it was in place.
Will I never picked it up again to find out.
Well now you can :)
Nah I’m good. Not really that cool anyway after a few hours.
Maybe one day I’ll get a Valve Index.
Maybe one day I’ll get a Valve Index.
But you’ve already got a Quest?
still think people complaing about this is weird. Like, they made this change, and removed the facebook integration, and people still act like this is the case.
You don’t need a Facebook account. They very quickly removed that requirement.
They took that out a while ago, that’s when I picked up the Quest 2. Honestly, it’s the best PCVR headset out there, and this article has nothing to do with PCVR, just their own platform. This won’t affect your ability to pirate PCVR games at all.
Make a dummy one.
They make you send them your id…
No they don’t.
Guess I’ll save up for the Valve one
HP reverb g2 is pretty solid
It’s discontinued unfortunately, so don’t expect much in the way of support. But it is a great VR headset that you can get on the cheap ATM
I’m really not a fan of Windows MR, both because it’s locked to Windows but also because it’s kind of temperamental, but it’s a good headset in terms of resolution at least (and comfort).
Although I will admit it’s not as buggy as it used to be so that’s a plus.
Out of curiosity:
I was looking into VR headsets half a year ago and found the PICO 4 interesting as a budget option to try VR.
The Display of the G2 seems to be a lot better but costs an additional 250€. Does it really make the experience that much better and worth the bigger investment if you only want to try it out and fear that the headset will only collect dust after a month or so?
Honestly, If you are just trying out vr I think you should go for the cheaper option. I don’t have a frame of reference though as the G2 was my first headset. You also need to have a good enough GPU for the increased resolution.
Thanks, I guess I will go for the PICO once my urge to buy some new tech appears again.
Just an FYI, but the PICO 4 is made by ByteDance which is the parent company of TikTok. Facebook is awful but I don’t trust TikTok either.
I’m just waiting for the Psvr2 jailbreak. The index is nice, but their choice of display really leaves a lot to be desired. I far preferred even the slightly smeared look of my Odyssey+ to the Index, though the index’s tracking was miles ahead of my Odyssey. PSVR is the best headset on the market, but not worth my time unless it can be used forPCVR.
Or just pay $20 for one of the ones that you stick your phone in.
My phone always overheated with those
It seems (seemed) like a pretty good vr headset…just it’s owned by one of the worst companies and I have no interest paying them hundreds for that level of access to my personal information.
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I haven’t updated my Quest 2 since it got a 120hz patch. Been blocking their servers via Pi-Hole and Oculess because fuck Meta and their shitty requirements. Btw, PCVR players, if you want more freedom with your Quest 2 devices you might want to check out Oculess and OculusKiller.
- https://github.com/basti564/Oculess - Removes account requirements from Quest 2 and disables telemetry/autoupdates.
- https://github.com/DevOculus-Meta-Quest/OculusKiller - Nukes the Oculus Dash and goes straight into Steam VR.
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Thanks. I’ll be checking these out later.
I’m also glad I’ve kept my quest isolated from the internet once I enabled dev mode (for oculess). I’ve noticed it tries to connect to IP addresses owned by Meta (according to whois), without any dns queries involved. Your pihole won’t be able to block that… I went a few steps farther and set up a dedicated wifi network that only allows local traffic. Then I set up a http proxy (squid) that only allows connections to certain websites. I mostly use the quest for PCVR though, so the proxy doesn’t get much use.
And thanks for sharing oculuskiller! I’ve been looking for something like that for a while.
Oh, I didn’t know about that. Gonna try isolating it too.
All the shills promised me and other doubters that something like this would never happen. I’m glad I lost all interest in Oculus the moment Facebook bought them.
Hopefully we’ll see some solid info on the Deckard this year.Same. And it’s sad because, from what others have said, they are great vr headsets. Hopefully valve nails it with Deckard.
I so wish Facebook dropped Oculus so that someone else would do it properly.
So glad I avoid Meta products. I doubt they will be satisfied until they can live sell your data and display ads while you use the product.
Those are two very different things. Advertising giants don’t actually “sell” your data, it’s really not in their best interest, they make money by being the only ones with your data.
So… they sell, lease, etc either your data or some value added bullshit services or products based on your data for a higher price due to monopoly?
No, they sell advertment slots to advertisers with promise of higher ad interaction, a promise they can keep because they target those advertisements to users that are more likely to interact with them using user data. User data isn’t sold, leased, whatever you want to call it.
Also, technically not entirely a monopoly because there are quite a few tech giants that operate like this. Oligopoly would be the correct term.
Why are all these companies hell bent on making more e-waste
Or, what the fuck do they think they’re protecting against?
It’s not about protecting anything, it’s about acquiring and selling as much of your personal data as they can.
Aaaaaaaaaand just like that, never buying a Facebook headset. Also because apparently they firmware updated to requiring a Facebook account.
Meh.
I’ll go valve index 2.0
they firmware updated to requiring a Facebook account.
I think this is wrong, at least on the quest 2, this used to be the case, but they got rid of this requirement I think a year or so ago.
If you have a source, pls provide it.
Didn’t they just change to require meta account instead?
I dunno, I just remember reviewers discussing it. I don’t have facebook. But looks like they did in fact ditch the facebook account requirement… in favor of meta accounts https://www.tomsguide.com/news/meta-just-removed-facebook-login-requirement-for-quest-headsets-what-you-need-to-know
No thanks.
Index 2.0 when?
Whenever it graces us with its presence. lol.
Sounds pretty on-brand for them.
Remember kids: Meta = cancer
Do everything you can to stop meta from metastasizing.
Oh cool. Another reason to not buy one.
We’ve reached a point that technology is not improving, but degrading – who on earth is going to accept this as is and let third parties acquire random information about them, including their credit card? I mean, if a hacker manages to bust (whatever feature that allows this bs to happen) and forward info to them instead of the meta HQ – they are going to have a heck of a honeypot.
I very much doubt even 10% of Quest owners will even bother to complain online about this.
Complain? I would be shocked if 10% of quest users even know it’s happening
I agree. But I worry that unfortunately this won’t stop most people.
Welp as someone who cannot maintain a constant internet connection on my devices this is quite the turnoff
Another reason I would never buy a Meta product
This will be removed once thousands of little Billy or grandma’s can’t get that app to work, just like the Facebook requirement. Their support is a joke.
I had an app stuck in the update queue (still no way to see that queue). The recommendation was to do a factory reset. Not open up queue, restart download, not remove from queue - none of those things you can do! Good thing I had sidequest and was able to open up the quest taskmanger on my computer and do a force quit or I would never have been able to download anything again!
No way they let something that does that on purpose everytime the router goes out. Millions of factory resets? No, millions of returns.
I hope you’re right.
Yep. Called it. Again.
Glad I got a Vive.
You’re still using a Vive?
Some people aren’t using any VR headset.
Oh, that’s fine! I’m just impressed with the longevity some people have gotten out of the Vive. It was a well built HMD.
I can’t imagine what kind of a bad way I’d have to be in mentally to end up buying a Meta product…
…and there goes my eagerness to buy the Q3. I loathe drm.
