“fuck u/spez” means absolutely nothing to anyone who isn’t familiar with Reddit, it’s just noise.
“FIRE STEVE HUFFMAN” is a clear, actionable statement that has a clear target and goal and actually has meaning to people who don’t know what Reddit is (like say, a potential shareholder or investor)
Idk where to put this since r/savethirdpartyapps got banned so post this wherever will get noise if you agree
Lmao you sweet summer child. You think firing him will do shit? The company has cancer. They are trying to go public. Nothing is going to fix whats wrong with the company now. It’s terminal.
This is how it goes.
Company makes good product.
Company goes public.
Company becomes shit.
Company dies.Rinse and repeat.
Also, firing spez does nothing because this wasn’t spez’s decision.
If you look at the history of Reddit’s API, it had a fee until spez became CEO again and made it free. This was when the 3PA took off.
Being the CEO does not mean that you get to actually make major decisions for the company. Think of the CEO as the face of the board of directors. They are the ones that approve/deny major changes.
You want the board changed, not spez.
Why do we want anything to change?
Why are we still sitting on this new platform talking about ways reddit can be saved?
What’s happening to reddit is the end result of the sort of platform it is and the current state of the tech industry. With or without spez, its course is set, nothing we do will slow or reverse it.
Feels like maybe there’s some younger people here that haven’t gone through the death of a platform/site before. Us older social media folks have seen this time and time again, have had to migrate from self-destructing platform to self-destructing platform many times.
So take it from me: reddit is done. No matter what happens next, it is never recovering. There will be no reset button or rolling back anything. The damage is permanent, and the profit incentives run too deep.
Let it go.
The cold never bothered me anyway.
I am so tired of this sentiment. You’re not wrong about the corporate stuff, but blaming people for wanting it to get better serves no purpose. For all its flaws, Reddit had something that no other site, not even this one, has been able to remotely replicate. I didn’t use the site for news, politics, memes, or mindless scrolling. I used it because it was literally the only place to discuss niche topics and interests.
Whether we like it or not, it’s the only place where a lot of these niche communities exist. Users that were here since Digg will find a new home, but the one who can barely use a Macbook may not. And I’m all for helping as many of those communities migrate, but the truth is that for many communities, especially the ones less technically inclined, the death of Reddit means the death of that community, and that’s really fucking sad.
Niche community boards existed before Reddit, they will exist after Reddit.
blaming people for wanting it to get better serves no purpose
Yeah. No one is doing that. We’re blaming them for tolerating bullshit.
The users played every card they had and Reddit didn’t move a fucking millimeter. If they had come up with absolutely any sort of compromise, you could have a decent argument. But Reddit has made it very clear that the only changes that are coming are the continued enshittification.
If users actually stopped contributing to the site, they would have no choice but to roll back the changes and come up with another solution. But not even a small fraction of the site’s users slowed down for more than a couple of days.
We need to just let reddit die as a sign to all other executives that their customers are the ones who hold the cards.
We weren’t the customers. We were the content creators. We gave the site value that was then sold to advertisers, as the cost of keeping the platform running.
Thinking of platforms like reddit as businesses is the inherent problem in the first place. Running ads or having some premium features should only be for the purposes of maintaining the site. The second the people running it decide that it’s time to start making profit for themselves is the moment it dies.
You want the board changed, not spez.
Katelin Holloway - Former exec of vc capital firm Initialized.
Michael Seibel - Y Combinator partner
Patricia Fili-Krushel - previously the President of ABC TV Network, and an EVP at both NBCUniversal and Time Warner Inc.
Paula Price - Former board member of JP Morgan Chase bank
Porter Gale - CMO at Personal Capital
Robert A. Sauerberg Jr. - President and CEO at Conde Nast
Samuel Altman - president of Y Combinator and now the CEO of OpenAI.
Zubair Jandali - global head of App Developer Ad Sales (owned by google). Ddirector of US performance sales at AdMob.
2 techbro ghouls
4 financial elite bougie pricks
1 TV elite bougie prick
1 advertisement industry ghoul and all round bougie prick
Overall you nailed it, but the terminology you used to summarize those roles is really cringe.
How’s that boot taste?
Is that what you say everytime you fail to comprehend a response? Tell me how that makes any sense.
Nah mate it’s what I say to americans that see basic political terms as cringe because america has turned their entire system into a politically illiterate joke. You’d probably get a culture shock if you saw me using the word comrade but if you came over here you’d find it is in common use in labour parties all over europe.
You didn’t say comrade, or bourgeois. You said techbro ghouls and elite bougie prick. Then proceeded to slander me as a bootlicker despite me agreeing with your point.
I prefer Join Lemmy.
“fuck u/spez” means absolutely nothing to anyone who isn’t familiar with Reddit, it’s just noise.
And "Fire Steve Huffman means absolutely nothing to anyone who doesn’t know reddit CEO’s name.
I’ll go for an easier one: Fuck reddit, join lemmy. Easy and clear, and I’m not sure reddit would get any better with its CEO fired, they’ll likely find someone similar.
STOP trying to convince yourself that this is a saveable situation START getting on with life away from Reddit
The biggest thing to do, if you don’t want to delete your reddit account, is to log out (and remove the saved login in the browser).
You’ll be surprised how much your monkey brain resists logging back in once it is, well, “effort”.
Sorry but as someone who can no longer use Reddit I can’t say I “resist” wanting to use it back
Reddit is a hell of a drug
For me, I replaced the reddit (infinity) location on my phone with Lemmy. It’s worked well so far, I just end up opening Lemmy instead. Still haven’t found a great alternative to adding “site:reddit.com” to the end of some internet searches yet.
I swear some Lemmy users are worse than that overly attached gf meme.
Get off Reddit and stop talking about reddit.
Uhm, you see in what community you posted this ?
Even firing him he would receive Ellen Pao treatment and put another puppet.
Instead of “fuck u/spez” use “reddit is dead” or “join Lemmy”.
I said bye, now I say “Lemmy’s pretty cool”.
I think everyone would be better off ignoring Reddit and its staff completely. We can build a better Reddit 2.0, and it wouldn’t even take a lot of effort. The last year or two of Reddit (from my perspective) was lackluster content from niche communities becoming unbearably toxic anyway.
And bots. And sponsored content.
I didn’t mind a good infobot in a niche sub, but moving exclusively to lemmy has made me realize just how insidious the bots and sponsored content are over there. I felt attacked, for lack of a better word, by them even if I wasn’t interacting with them.
I wonder how much of reddit is dark internet and how much is real users, and how expotentially that might grow. It should be interesting to observe the collapse at any rate.
I just loaded the front page without logging in out of curiosity. It’s utter garbage.
The timing of twitter collapse, threads paid celebrity launch, and reddit implosion feels… Very foreboding.
Don’t forget about virtual influencers which is a horror show I just learned about!
To be fair, no one should fuck Spez, or do anything that would even temporarily improve the quality of his life.
He needs to get fucked, though, just not by another person.
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Ellen Pao was actually right though. The attacks on her came from the far right and redditors lapped that shit up because reddit was (and still is) a misogynistic shithole. Her biggest crime was… Closing /r/fatpeoplehate.
If she’d stayed on Reddit wouldn’t have helped qanon, wouldn’t have helped cause theredpill movement, wouldn’t have caused the_donald, wouldn’t have caused a shit load of bad things.
Comparing Huffman to her is absurd. Huffman is a far right prepper. She is as far as I can tell a pretty well-meaning liberal, as far as tech CEOs go anyway, which is unusual given that the vast majority of CEOs in tech them are far right crypto bro libertarian fuckheads.
Misogynistic shithole my ass. There’s some misogynists there, but my experience of Reddit was that it was progressive and feminist to an extent rivalling Tumblr.
Depends a lot on which subreddits you frequented. Some subreddits were alright, but many of the largest ones would frequently have uncontested ableism and transphobia.
What does misogyny have to do with disabled or trans people? Other than the fact that around 1/2 are women?
The comment above mentioned progressivism in general
my experience of Reddit was that it was progressive and feminist to an extent rivalling Tumblr
Since you’re asking, I find that blatant transphobia also tends to go hand in hand with some sort of sexism, but that’s an unrelated point.
Sorry, I skipped the progressivism part.
The crime was turning up the censorship. Saying mean things should absolutely be allowed.
“Censorship” lol, cry harder.
Her platform, her rules. Don’t like it? Leave. This ain’t a government, you have no free speech rights here or anywhere else on the internet, don’t like how a site operates/what a site allows? Then leave.That’s what people are doing now. There weren’t alternatives then. And your attitude is unjustified.
Progressive censors are just as bad as their right-wing counterparts, but live in a delusional world in which whatever they do is right because they’re the ones that do it.
Did I say anything about liking their stances? No. They’re a private company though. They can do as they fucking please.
In fact the only way to force them to not censor anyone is to eliminate their (the owners) first amendment rights. That’s why private companies are not beholden to it. Unfortunately this concept is foreign to right wing nuts.
I did. I haven’t logged into my reddit account in 8 fucking years.
how about we stop talking about reddit and enjoy lemmy instead?
I agree, but, you know… This community is called “Reddit”.
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