Why some men bully and hate on women who post here their own images? Specifically women who have a link in their bio.

As somebody who is not enjoying watching nor listening to ads, I understand that part, but we still get to see those beautiful/sexy photos/videos for free.

And even those women who post without any aggressive promotion, variety of content (not recycling the same photo in different sub-communities), not providing any links directly in their posts nor asking for anything and just enjoying being social, get attacked too. Why?

What has happened to live and let live? Why being so rude and disrespectful? I truly don’t get it.

I mean I have a theory, but I would hate to offend anyone, it’s just not in me to be disrespectful, so I keep it to myself for now.

That said, I also would like to acknowledge that vast majority of Lemmy NSWF members are awesome and many thanks to you all for building this fun community.

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    So I’m not one of those people but I think I get where they’re coming from.

    The issue is one of quantity vs quality. Many of the most prolific OnlyFans posters make the same generic content and they post that content in every community they posibly can to hit the widest audience. It was really bad on reddit where they would post the same picture of their boobs in 15 different subreddits. So far that hasn’t been as much of an issue on Lemmy but I think people are woried that if it isn’t stopped early then it will start to be an issue and that is why they are targeting all OF posters. I get why OnlyFans posters do that though. OnlyFans is very competitive and very few people actually make any decent money off of it so if you want to make money on there then you need to market yourself agressively and you need to make your content generic enough to apeal to the widest audience.

    On the other hand, if somebody is just posting their amateur content without any monetary goal then they don’t need to be concerned with marketability. Actual amateurs are free to be much more varied and to only post their content in communities where it actually applies. Sure, good verified amateur content is significantly more rare than professional OF content, but without all the professional OF spam it would be easier to find on here. A lot of people also don’t seem to understand the difference between someone who posts on OF as their job and someone who posts on OF because they were posting amateur content anyways so why not post on OF too and maybe make some extra money.

    There’s also the fact that, like you said, people just don’t like being advertized to. That’s also probably the root of a lot of the hate.

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      More like 50…Once I was looking at a profile that I swear had over 50 PAGES of the same photo posted everywhere. I was scrolling just out of morbid curiosity of course… How do people even find so many subs to post to?

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      Thank you for your valuable input and taking time to answer. Much appreciated.

      I absolutely can see this aspect, as I have mentioned in my original post. Personally I also rather enjoy the community with social interactions that are more authentic and fun.

      But this still leaves my question open, because women who do not engage in the practices you described and on contrary engage in building this community without any advertisment, but happen to have a link in their bio, are targeted too.

      Now to clarify - I don’t think anyone should be targeted at all, subs can set the rules, we must follow them, and mods can warn and ban those who break them. And in all other cases - don’t like something then don’t look at it.

      But it seems having a link in bio is enough to bring the hate on and this really is something I would love the haters to clarify- why?

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        But this still leaves my question open, because women who do not engage in the practices you described and on contrary engage in building this community without any advertisment, but happen to have a link in their bio, are targeted too.

        The thing is that those people aren’t selectively targeting the “bad” OnlyFans users. They aren’t going through and reviewing peoples profiles in detail. They just see onlyfans and assume the worst.

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          But you have to make an effort to go to somebody’s profile and see the link.

          If you just looking at the post and there is no link, nor mention and fun conversation is flowing in the comments, then why?

          I want to get to the bottom of this 😆😆😆

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      Proof for your theory is the German gonewild community on Reddit. I commented about this here. They have a strict no ads policy. Even a link to onlyfans on your profile will result in a ban. When they enforced their policy some people left, but all in all the community is a divers place with a good amount of posts from all genders. My guess is: if you live somewhere, where the lack of money will not fuck you up that hard, it is easier to do things just for fun.

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    Maybe I’m late to the party.

    But first of all, it really sucks women go throught this kind of abuse here. Independently from if we like onlyfans let’s call them advertisement or bait posts or not, I think we need to be better than this as a community. The chill vibe is what most sets us apart from other places such as Reddit, and we really have to try to keep it that way. 

    Secondly, I think some people become incredibly inconsiderate as soon as their anonymous on the Internet, completely forgetting that they’re talking to real life people on the other side. My imagination suggests that this is just some angry incel dude, hating on you out of frustration, and I really do hope you never take it personally. I don’t mean to be kissing your ass either, I just really like mutual respect on the Internet.

     Is my username would suggest, I do need to browse these communities every now and again to see who the good and the bad girls are ;) I feel that most of the time it’s very clear if someone is an only fans poster or lets call them amateur posters. The quality let’s say of the bodies and the professional grade pictures usually gives it away. That being said, I regularly see the distinction between the women who are posting this only to post the link in the comments, and never reply to any of the (thirsty) dudes in the comment section and the content creators who take this community seriously and invest a lot of their time to engage with viewers. I would definitely consider you in the second category.

    On a sidenote, I am a mobile user on iOS, and I cannot see any bio of yours through Memmy. Or maybe I’m just a noob. I don’t use only fans, so it doesn’t matter to me, but I thought you should know people might not see the link.

    Long story short, keep up the amazing work. I think you really improve the community with both your content and your comments. Don’t listen to the haters, I hope the trend will die down. 

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      Thank you for this.

      I actually had nothing but great experience on Lemmy (bar one comment) previous to this post, but I came across many negative comments.

      Now this has changed and I’m showered with hate, because I dared to post what I did.

      It is insanity.

      Not that it should make any difference but I am a total amateur - I work full time in professional environment closely connected to my education. I also take additional work, because life is expensive as we all know. This leaves me with very little time for myself and my hobbies, I have always enjoyed photography so I started experimenting on myself with the camera, not like I could had asked any friends to be my nude models nor had time to go and study photography.

      I literally have thousands of photos in my folders that have never been seen by anyone - too revealing for social media.

      It took me years to gave in to requests to open OF and start sharing. I never had it on my agenda. But it feels in a way like the most safe place to share and the best place to be appreciated too.

      Yeah, I have a link in my bio. But I don’t go and shout about it. I don’t mention it in my comments and I don’t even make titles suggestive enough. I don’t feel like anything I post here screams “promo”.

      I belive if somebody likes something they go and investigate and then they do what their heart desires. My link is as an option if anyone feels curious and would like to see more or support what I do. But that’s all.

      At this stage I decided to use a block feature. I’m playing a Santa too and giving a bag of coal to all those nasty boys (they certainly don’t sound like men)

      Thanks for being you and being awesome!

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        I think using your own Santa Powers is very good in this situation. Also, just want to say how messed up it is you getting hate over asking about why all the hate. Most of all on Lemmy, a place where we constantly pat ourselves on the back for not being as toxic as other places.

        I enjoyed reading the bit of background, but please never feel like tou have to justify anything or any personal choices to anyone on here. It’s your life, your choice and our luck that you choose to post the content that you do.

        I am surprised that someone even downvoted this comment of yours, like what about it ground someones gears!?

        I hope you keep giving bags of coal to these thirsty weirdly incel-vibe dudes giving you hate on here. And I hope the rest of us (the vast majority) get to enjoy the contents of the folder you mentioned for years to come - I know I’m looking forward to it.

        Keep up the great work!!

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          Don’t worry Santa, I’m a big girl and don’t feel like I have to justify any of my actions or anything about myself, but sometimes it feels good to share.

          I have gained so much hate in here that it is now disturbing. It seems the more genuine and nice you are to the people, the more they hate you.

          My original theory as why this is happening grows in strength. Now I’m pretty sure my suspicions were right from the start.

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    Above and beyond reporting any shitty comments that we see, is there any other actions that you would like to see from socially well adjusted men here?

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    I’ve only been on here for a few days and gotten some weird hate comments. I know my look is not for most people and that is fine, but I’ve gotten more negative comments here than I ever did on Reddit in just a few days. It’s just weird that people rather spend more time looking at my pic they don’t like to post a negative comment. 🤷‍♀️

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      I’m truly sorry your experience with Lemmy is so negative. You look badass and beautiful, and I hope you don’t let this negativity get into you.

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    I think it is a lack of maturity and misplaced sense of entitlement. I don’t know if it’s possible to block a user to keep them from being able to see or comment on your posts. That certainly would be a great feature. 😀

    I’m sorry you ladies have to put up with so many idiots. I downvote them when I see them.

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      I’d also recommend the reverse: if you think you’re seeing a lot of posts from someone you don’t want to see: BLOCK THAT POSTER. We have that power.

      There are people I am not interested in that post constantly who are not even advertising an OF. I just block them. Nothing personal. Just me customizing my feed to my tastes. If you’ve ever spent time on a NSFW forum then you already know that people have different tastes.

      I have no patience for little babies who think the entire site should change policies so that they don’t have to customize their feed to their tastes. Grow up, babies! Don’t skip thumb day: reach over and hit that block button!

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    Why is it always assumed it’s men? For what we know, it could be some jealous Karens. You can be whoever you want to be on the internet.

    Personallly I am a bit annoyed when all I see are OF promotions, especially if their owners treat it only as such - e.g. never communicating or responding, clearly stating “I only respond on OF, not DMs” etc. Especially ironic when professional porn stars are often more willing to talk to their fans, but for lots of OF chicks that’s somehow beneath them.

    So I guess this whole culture has spoiled the fun quite a bit. But then, I’m not the one writing ugly comments (not to this kind of content anyway) and I do appreciate if the content is good and varied. So I don’t know if that’s the answer you’re after. People just generally need to learn to take a deep breath before writing to a stranger.

    Ed: Oh also, we also often get spammed by OF links, as in via DMs. Hasn’t happened to me on Lemmy yet but that’s also a way to sour the mood.

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      You’re not entitled to be replied to for free.

      I am on here to advertise my OF. I only have a link in my bio. I say quick thank yous and such to people who comment to me, but I am not gonna have an entire conversation for free. It sounds like you’re wanting free titty pics and free sexting, good luck with that.

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        Ok this is genuinely hilarious. I only saw your comment now because I had to look at this instance to check if comments are getting federated from lemmy.world.

        I didn’t see it before, because I have you blocked due to you spamming your stuff.

        Look around yourself. You’re on an open source platform people make for free in their free time, running on servers people run for free in their free time, surrounding by people who make content and do work for free in their free time. Everyone is here to enjoy themselves and run away from all the advertisements we’re flooded with everywhere else.

        You’re the entitled one here to think that your class can keep spamming your commercial crap.

        So no, I don’t need your spam, your titties free or otherwise, nor your communication of any kind. Back to blocking.

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      Because it is men.

      Not ALL, not even vast majority, but still. Bad apples leave a bad taste and rotten the whole bunch…

      I’m yet to see female creator leaving nasty comments under another female creator. We are usually supporting each other, or just moving on. It takes incredible amount of courage and thick skin to put ourselves out there knowing there will be so many hateful people. Nobody expects thanks, like we are used to having zero appreciation for all the work and time that goes into creating content we share for free… but being abused on top of that is just insanity!

      I don’t even promote, I share my photos and try to make this community grow and to be a fun place to interact. Yes I have a link in my bio, I’m not sending anyone to it, nor plastering it anywhere in my titles nor comments. I haven’t posted same photo anywhere. I love being social and having fun chats with like minded people.

      The entitlement of getting everything for free can go both ways, you know?

      I would happily have all my photo equipment, travel to locations, laptop, outfits and cost of time spend travelling, setting up, taking photos and editing given for free without showing anything in return.

      But I do it mainly for myself for fun, because I enjoy it. But yeah it cost shit loads of money so I finally gave in and created that link.

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    I’m sorry that you’re having such unpleasant experiences with some users on here. Please report people that leave hateful comments, I think most moderators will gladly delete them. Some people are sadly not used to treating other human beings with dignity on the internet… xD

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      This - please report people who are using the platform to expouse their hate, unnecessary misogyny (unless that’s what you’re into…) or are just generally trolls.

      Also, if moderators are the ones encouraging, taking part, or otherwise ignoring it, please let an administrator know so we can try to resolve it.

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        So posting a pic and having a link in your bio is spam? A link that you would have to click through to see? A link you would have to specificly hunt for? I haven’t clicked on every single pic posted, but I hardly see anyone posting any links in the comments here.

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            That is not the situation OP was talking about nor what I have experienced with rude comments on here. I’ve gotten rude comments with maybe reposting a single pic a total of 3 times before I really leaned this site. I haven’t seen every pic but I haven’t seen much spamming here at all.

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        Believing that women should do exactly what you like and only what you like, and that hateful comments are a good way to respond anytime you’re not happy about what they do… yeah, actually that’s misogyny. No really I checked, and you’re wrong, trust me. Just Google it.

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    I feel like the downvote arrow on lemmynsfw posts should be removed. For me it is a huge turnoff to see people downvoting other peoples original content to hell. It is a boner killer, and makes me feel disgusted at people’s entitlement and shit filled brains. I’m not into shit filled brains, take your hate and make a community around that kink so I can block it.

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      Honestly I’d be cool with that and an option by the poster to disable comments if they want. If someone wants to show their body off, let them. If it’s not a body I want to see I can scroll past it and say nothing like a normal, polite human being. If the OP wants to tolerate the comments, fine, but I don’t want anyone posting themselves and getting shamed/shit on for it.