Israeli foreign ministry posts video of Thunberg’s arrest; vessels carrying about 500 activists intercepted about 75 miles off coast of war-torn territory

      • AreaSIX @lemmy.zip
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        Really? I wonder who Gazans and people from the west bank voted for in the last Israeli elections. Right, they’re under the control of Israeli occupation but can’t vote in the democracy, all millions of them. But you know, it’s also the only country in the world that explicitly states that it’s the country of all Jews in the world and not its citizens’. Remarkably democratic in fact, so democratic that it redefines democracy as ethno-supremacy.

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        Israel is a “democracy” as much as America is a “democracy”. I may have exaggerated a bit

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      Religion is fucking stupid anyway, so a theocratic country is extra stupid.

      Yep, which is why granting Palestine statehood would be also extra stupid.

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        I’m not a big fan of theocratic countries myself, but if my choices for the state of the world tomorrow morning are two theocratic countries or one theocratic country next to a field of charred bones, I think I could pick the former pretty easily.

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        Oh, ew. The preservation of Palestine is about the preservation of people and culture that have every right to exist. Not religion first (which isn’t wrong even if you are against it). This is a ghastly take.

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        Really? Now?

        Palestinians deserve their own state, religious or not, that is not for you to judge

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        A two state solution is what was agreed with the UN. Although it is sort of stupid to assume that the hate from either side will die down anytime soon, there are workable solutions like not having a Palestine state be propped up by Hamas. A terrorist group that was propped up by Netanyahi and who alongside Israel eliminated people’s ability to vote for new leadership, it’s clear that Israel wanted to stoke hate and a boogeyman they could also easily defeat.

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          Most countries agrees to have a palestinian state should be ruled by the PA and israel and the usa refuse any state. So stop using hamas as an excuse

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            What are you confrontationally blabbing about? If you agree that most countries agrees to have a Palestinian state should be ruled by the PA and Israel and the USA refuse any state, then we have no disagreement.

            How about you simply admit that what ticked you and other people downvoting my comment is the fact that I call out Hamas along with Israel? I realize there’s a lot of opposition being promoted by pro-Hamas groups, but they really don’t need to make it that obvious. Anyway, I’ll let you get back at your next attempt to gaslight me.

            Although I am surprised that you conceded to a two state solution. Now that there is consensus that Israel is performing genocide, there has been a change in the narrative towards a more of a “destroy Israel, our state is the rightful state” subtly, beginning by claiming that the two state solution is a Zionist lie along with the claim that a lot of people in Israel are discontented with Netanyahu, all to portray them as one great villain (sort of what Netanyahu and his far right buddiers are doing to Palestinians, too). Are you sure you’ve got the latest memo?

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              You are claiming that Hamas is the reason why there is no state, it is factually wrong. If you condemn hamas killing or attacking civilians , i eould havr no problem with that.

              Poor you crying about being downvoted

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                It is part of the reason there isn’t. Most of it is due to Israel, but that’s also why they propped up Hamas over the PA. Sorry not-sorry to have offended your pro-Hamas sensibilities.

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                  It is part of the reason there isn’t. Most of it is due to Israel, but that’s also why they propped up Hamas over the PA

                  Everything is due to Israel because even if Hamas is destroyed they will refuse to end occupation. Netanyahu said it there will be no Palestinian state because the land is our.

                  If you was alive during Nat Turner revolt you would have talked about how Nat Turner was part of the reason why slavery existed for long time instead of saying the salve owner was the only one responsible for it. If you where alive during a bloody revolt from indigenous people against the settlers you would have talked about how indigenous people was part of the problem. You have no moral and should be ashamed of your BS

                  Sorry not-sorry to have offended your pro-Hamas sensibilities.

                  I am offended by hypocrites like you who give excuse to the occupier to continue the occupation.

                  The PA is the one who allows Palestinians to be attacked by the settler terrorists and continue to respect the oslo accords that israel is not respecting everyday

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                    Looking at your modlog, that’s clearly not the only thing you are offended by. Not that it’s anything surprising.

                    You know, you’d think someone who thinks they are right would be more honest about their convictions.