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    That guy couldn’t argue his points properly with students half his age and he had the charisma of an orthopedic sloth. Future president my ass.

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    These snakes make my skin crawl. It’s like my irish catholic upbringing has re-emerged as a global tempest. Believers terrify me in chaotic environs.

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      Were you expecting different? Because that is exactly what I expect.

      I also agree with him, by the way, Erika Kirk is a fucking ghoul that might actually be worse than Charlie.

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    This isn’t discussed nearly enough. He was 100% groomed to be the next president. Do any of you actually understand Charlie Kirk would have been the American president. That is not talked about enough. Fun to laugh at, sure. But it was an actual reality. There were a lot of eggs in that basket. I can’t prove it, but the assignation of Charlie Kirk may have significantly saved a lot of lives.

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    Want really his trajectory anyway.

    Way easier to just cash in from the sidelines and take the profits without the potential accountability of actually being in any office.

    Most celebrity commentators never go anywhere near an actual office. Whether they be left or right.

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      Wa[s]nt really his trajectory anyway.

      Maybe not personally, but I don’t doubt the GOP would have written him a large enough check to forgo his prior dealings and make a run for it.

      I say this because they had (and still have) absolutely nobody else in the running. They desperately thought they would have had JD Vance in position to take the helm and muster up Trump’s political capital in the form of the 28% percent of the US population who have no frontal lobes.

      But as of now, Trump’s base hasn’t moved, they still adore Trump and would leap of a cliff for him, and they all haaate JD Vance, or at least are ambilivent towards him. They wanted Trump because he’s authentic. Not honest, authentic. He doesn’t talk like a politician, he’s open with his hatred, he’s even open with his lying. They eat it up, they see him as “human” more than other figures.

      Vance comes across as another establishment career politician and talks like he’s been prepared and groomed for the job, and it’s very apparent and people deeply dislike it.

      The only other Republican I think of who can seem to deliver lines with passion and actual sincerity would have been Charlie Kirk, he had a growing following. I don’t think he would have run in 2028 since he was quite young, but they would have definitely fielded him as their primary contender for harnessing not just MAGA but the broad, conservative Christian segment of the US.

      I have no idea what they plan on doing now other than trying to use ICE as Temu gestapo and intimidate voters in key battleground states. Which at this point isn’t going to go over too well, people are getting fucking inspired to face these chimps down because they are seeing video after video of citizens attacking them and driving them away, the general public sees mayors and governors establishing that ICE has no real authority, so people who hate the federal government (there’s more than a few) are going to feel emboldened to go pick a fight with them.

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        You are right, I tell you who would be able to take it, is RFK, but his voice is a real deal breaker for the base? hard to give a nazi speech with that impediment. Vance was chosen because he’s unlikable, so the president wouldn’t be shunted aside for him.

        Who else do they have? Kirk really could’ve had a real chance, barring any repudiation of Israel’s plans for his organization that he spurned, along with their board p[r]icks for his own vision.

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        We have seen pop media people move over, Trump, Schwarzenegger, Reagan, but at least so far it’s not been, ironically enough, political celebrities. They seem to prefer commentating from the sidelines rather than being in the thick of things. Easier to always be ‘correct’ when you are not actually accountable for your ideas.

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    He really wasn’t. As more offline people found out who he was, it quickly became clear that most people found him repulsive.

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        With Trump, people either idolize or loath him. With Charlie Kirk, people either kinda like him or loath him. There’s a significant difference.

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          I feel like most people looked at Charlie Kirk and thought, “I probably would have bullied him if we had gone to high school together.”

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        Experts often say that Trump is somehow unique, but I’ve never understood that idea. If anything, he seems far less impressive to me than a typical politician, due to his constantly broadcasting his low intelligence.

        Anyways, I hope he is unique, since he’s old and unhealthy. He’ll personally be out of our hair pretty soon.

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          His low intelligence is the reason so many people love him. Well, not that specifically, but because he talks in a way they understand. The same way they talk. Combined with the belief that being rich (even if it’s a farce) must inherently mean someone knows what they are doing, and you get where we are now.