Oprah is a fkn blight on our country. She burdened us with dr oz and dr phil, two absolute pieces of shit.
Do we know if Oprah is one too? I don’t know much about her. But it seems shes been awfully close to a lot of horrible people
Behind the bastards did a couple episodes on her.
6 I think.
Well that kind of answers that.
She’s a monster enabler and opportunist. Not sure she’s as horrible, but she definitely has narcissistic qualities.
That’s not really the vibe I’ve gotten from her. I mean she has her fingers in a lot of horrific pies. Simply a blight unto the world. I’ve heard her called the mother of demons and frankly not far off. But from everything I’ve seen (so far) it’s not that she’s personally involved in any of this, it’s just that she didn’t give a shit. She wanted the ratings. She wanted the story. She didn’t care if the story was true. She didn’t care if the story had horrible consequences. She didn’t care if people got hurt. She didn’t care if her fans were literally handed to a rapist because of her stories. All she cared about was moving those dials and everything else was immaterial to her . She just doesn’t give a fuck. Which might be worse. I don’t know.
At some point, the realization kicks in that what you’re doing is causing harm, no matter how far down the road. When you decide to keep going anyway, that’s your moment of sitting at the table with the nazis. Doesn’t matter if you’re totally removed from the evil doings, you’re helping, and you know you’re helping. And you’re okay with it.
She may never get there because she doesn’t support the monsters just their work. She separates the output from the creator and uses that gap between celebrating a book/movie/etc from the terrible person responsible for it. In her mind she isn’t promoting someone awful. She must be willingly blind to what’s happening because of the celebrities she promotes.
That the definition of a horrible person. Most of these people don’t, for example, rape children because they’re evil. They do it because it makes them feel powerful, and they don’t care about the harm it does. Rarely are there people who’s actions are actually inspired by doing harm. It’s much more common for it to be done for their personal benefit and not giving a fuck about what happens to others.
The other common form of evil is the banal kind. People who are just doing what they’re told, not questioning it. They’re told their doing things that are great for their nation/society, but they have horrible consequences for many people. They aren’t doing it out of malice, but out of ignorance or complacency.
maybe not, but she platformed all these people either on thier show, or through other means. shes an enabler/complicit at best.
Dr Oz and Dr Phil are because of Oprah
Behind the Bastards did some episodes on her. Might be relavent. Link to part 1
oh yea i remember some of the “poor” guests on her show complain that the cars she gave away were to expensive to afford(insurance, maintanance wise), oprah benefitted from that, either through have less taxes, or something. she likely planned it too.
When she gave away those cars, she gave every one of those people a multi-thousand dollar tax debt that had to be paid on that car. If it was a $30,000 car, then she just saddled each of those audience members with a $10,000 tax bill.
All she really did was force an audience of suckers to buy a sponsor’s expensive new car, not of their choice, at a steep discount, as an advertisement.
I go to the Oprah Show, and walk out with an expensive car I don’t want, and can’t afford, but better pay for or I can go to jail. Thanks Oprah.
Not to mention Oprah
She also platformed John of God, a South American mass rapist.
Oh shit I forgot about this one. Yeah that was pretty bad.
Jenny McCarthy
There does not exist a good person who is also a billionaire.
Yes, they can do good things. Mark Cuban has done some good things, but a good person would feel burdened by having too much money and would be compelled to use it to help others. I think you can be a good person and still want a super-easy life for yourself, but a billion dollars is way more than you need to fulfill that goal.
Billionaires are symptoms of a failed economic system. Under the current system you don’t become a billionaire by doing good things.
There are no good people who are billionaires. Stop looking for excuses to make them good people.
That’s literally their first sentence. How are they saying billionaires are good people?
Fucking what? Who was doing that?
Even GabeN.
As much as he has promoted more consumer value and rights, there’s still corporate meddling bullshit in Steam. I still worry for when he does die/retire how Steam will change.
I hope when he dies his fleet of superyachts is turned into a humanitarian project.
They’re already equipped and used for environmental research. It’s probably just greenwashing, but it’s a hell of a lot more than other billionaires have bothered with.
Something useful with them. There’s an organized list of billionaires from first to last, I’d put Gabe nearer the bottom with the guy who owns Laika Studios LLC.
Yes. Definitely.
she did come from rags to riches, but once you reach past 100mil you are disconnected.
Do you mean like Melinda Gates and MacKenzie Scott?
If you gave the goodest person in the world a billion dollars, you’d technically have a good person who was a billionaire, so my declaration would be wrong. But only for as long as it takes them to get rid of it.
I don’t know about Melinda Gates (literally haven’t heard anything), but MacKenzie Scott does seem to be burdened by the money at least somewhat and has been shoveling it away.
But if you compare, JK Rowling couldn’t bear being a billionaire, and it turns out that she’s a world-class asshole. Maybe if you’re MacKenzie Scott rich, it’s just hard to give the money away quickly, and we’ll see her end up with less than a billion however long that takes. Otherwise, I think she’s got to be at least as much of an asshole as Rowling.
I don’t know either of them personally, but I have met one of them. They seemed like a good person, if not a little naive and/or dumb to the world around them. I do agree with most of your points though.
Go on…
There was this young heir in the news in Austria last year who inherited stupid amounts of money and straight away said “ok lemme just give away most of this right away” and there was a whole thing about a commission having to be established to determine where money went and all that so it seems it might be somewhat difficult but I still think it’s a bad excuse.
you’d technically have a good person who was a billionaire, so my declaration would be wrong
And if we instead create a program of hyper inflation so that even minimum wage workers become billionaires overnight, the world will be filled with bad people? Or perhaps this idea is so simplistic as to be meaningless.
There are no good or bad people. There are only good and bad deeds.
I’m not going to address your first paragraph, it’s dumb.
But I will address your second paragraph. If a person commits many bad deeds they become a bad person. To become a billionaire you must commit many, many bad deeds. Therefore being a billionaire means you are a bad person.
Even if you believed you could become a billionaire by committing nothing but good deeds, being a billionaire requires you to have a billion dollars. Having a billion dollars over any period of time means you’re committing the bad deed of inaction. Not helping those in need, not giving away your excess money, not changing the world for the better. It’s watching a grandma getting assaulted and doing nothing about it - a despicable act - multiplied by billions of people and then made distant by every dollar you keep. If you had a billion dollars that means you know your friends, and your family, and the homeless of your city, and every person you know who needs expensive healthcare or university or a home is going without those things because you and you alone choose not to give it to them. Not to even speak about the people in places our ancestors abused or the planet that’s dying or any other serious issue that could be meaningfully dented by anyone of these billionaire assholes.
No, I disagree with your position. There are bad people, because those people commit overwhelmingly bad deeds. Being a billionaire means you must be a bad person. Hell, owning more than let’s say 20 million makes you a bad person and I think the state should tax every dollar over 5m.
How much of your excess money are you giving away? 100% of it?
Buddy I can’t afford a home. That to me is a human necessity. Owning things, especially basic things like your clothes and your shelter and your tools to make a living, is necessary. I make a good amount of money and I still can’t afford all of the basics.
You pretending that I’m saying every person must give every dollar away is stupid, disingenuous, and wrong. I’m not saying no one should have savings, I’m specifically saying if you have enough money to never work again in your life and still afford all the basic necessities and plenty of luxuries - which for most western countries is 5 million or so - you should be giving every other cent away. I’m not even saying donate it to charity. I’m saying buy your friend’s houses, buy the city a new library, send a bunch of kids to college and set them up for success, pay your fuckin taxes. And do that so fast that you’re not holding onto an extra dollar longer than you need to be because excessive money turns you evil.
What is broken inside of you that you’re defending billionaires? Why are you defending the very people who harm you daily? That steal from you and your kids? The hundred millionaires that are actively choosing to kill the planet or defend pedophiles or allow starvation and homelessness to happen?
No, I do not believe everyone making less than 200k a year should have no savings and single handedly attempt to fix all the problems the ultra rich are causing. That’s a stupid suggestion. I do believe everyone should chip in to their community, build infrastructure both physically and socially to better society, but God damnit that’d be a lot easier if half the wealth of the world held captive by evil assholes was more equitably distributed.
I’m not defending billionaires. I’ve never defended a billionaire. I’m pushing back on the idea that a billionaire is the same as a regular person but they have a billion dollars in their bank account and they can just give the money away with no consequences. It’s almost never like that!
So like let’s say you owned a company with 10,000 employees and your company was worth over a billion dollars. Congratulations you’re a billionaire! But if you’re gonna give away a billion dollars that means selling off the company and those 10,000 people losing their jobs! Or you’re selling the company as a whole and the new owner is a billionaire who is responsible for those employees.
Other suggestions I’ve heard are things like having the government take over the business, like that worked so well in the Soviet Union! Great way to create another Putin!
So do you have any suggestions for what to do with a billion dollar company without tearing it down, selling it off, or handing it over to the government?
They’re not gonna pay you for bootlicking here
The average person could donate a fraction of a cent and be giving away more excess than a billionaire when speaking in relative terms
That’s not the logic we’re operating with here. The GP claimed that if you’re not giving away your excess money, you’re committing the bad deed of inaction. Thus no one should have any savings whatsoever. Every penny beyond what you need to survive should be given away or it’s a bad deed.
Exactly. They didn’t make the billions. You can’t do that morally. They got it in a sudden payoff, and both seem to be working on reversing the issue, though not as fast as I feel they should. If they don’t continue to speedily reverse of the issue of them having billions, then I would say no they are not moral people, they are actually horrible disgusting people, just because of the amount of lives they could save and good they could do with that money, and instead choosing the hoard it.
Feel like that was the point they were making.
I will cherish always the day Oprah tried to get the Olympics in Chicago and the city showed up and told her to her face in protest FUCK YOU.
I’m not sure if she ever been back.
Chicagoans loath Oprah with a passion.
This cunt gave the antivax idiots a platform.
FUCK OPRAH!
Something something school for girls in Africa something something sexual assault allegations.
https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=3819485&page=1
From 2009
I just read that story, it seems like she did everything right? Believed the victims, praising them for coming forward, and taking action to make it easier for kids to come forward should something like this occur again.
I don’t really follow Oprah but about a year or so ago she burst upon the scene again in what seemed like a desperate attempt to sell “The Colour Purple” Broadway stage tickets. I wonder if that run was successful?
