• scarabic@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    Part of being “white” is getting to decide who is “white.” This is only possible because “white” is a completely made up category. We shouldn’t even engage with the term.

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      6 days ago

      Fair point but it’s so deeply rooted. Don’t we have to engage with it to some extent in order to eliminate it?

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        6 days ago

        I’ll just let my comment above stand as an example of how I think it should be engaged with. You can recognize that it’s a fantasy people have without participating in the fantasy.

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          It’s true that white is a made up term made to justify owning slaves and on that front it’s a meaningless way to group many different ethnicities. On the other hand as a white person I have to acknowledge that I am lumped in that group. I have privileges, and responsibilities because of it and there are social groups and spaces that are not for me. I can’t absolve myself of being white by saying white isn’t real.

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            1 hour ago

            I agree. It’s not about absolution. It’s about breaking down a culturally constructed instrument of oppression by refusing to participate in it. I can’t tell the world to stop treating me better because they think I’m white, which I believe is part of your point. But we do what we can, when we can, with knowledge of what we can and can’t.

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      6 days ago

      Old English saying “The wogs begin at Calais.”

      Meaning if you aren’t English you really aren’t White.