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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:
* enable developer options
* confirm that you are not tricked
* restart phone and re-authenticate
* wait one day
* confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
* decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
* confirm that you accept the risks
* enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this
https://goo.gle/advance-flow
enable developer options
confirm that you are not tricked
restart phone and re-authenticate
wait one day
confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
confirm that you accept the risks
enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this
I switched over to the fairphone which is degoogled android, and it’s been honestly great. Linux phone has a way to go, mostly needing to be able to run android apps I think, but /e/OS is a good bridge
I could never use the fairphone after reading about how the leadership responded to grapheneos disclaiming their claims that it was a secure device.
Instead of rebuking their statements, the founder resorted to personal attacks on the the leadership of grapheneos and reiterated the false information that the graphene project had.
Until i had read that I had a very positive mentality of the project but, that definitely has made me think twice about using anything related to /e/os in the future regardless if grapheneOS claims are true or false (they seem true)
I rely on xdrip+ for getting blood clucose measurements. That app is not on the play store.
So, in case I’ll loose my phone and have to buy one (or even just need to reset it) I’m 24hrs without blood glucose measurements…? Yeah that sounds great /s.
I’m aware. But, why should I go through so many extra steps and wait 24hrs to install apps on a phone I paid. Also, who is to say they won’t increase the requirements later in the name of “security”?
This is not a thing on Linux and Windows. Why should it be on android?
@limerod I already jumped the ship and ordered a Jolla phone. Hope I made the right choice. But if you cannot get it for whatever reason, you can always get one of the supported devices and install Postmarket OS
I have an old redmi lying unused. I will have to experiment on it to understand the ROM flashing scene. PostmarketOS is a good project. Hopefully, the community interest will increase and make things more accessible for everyone.
It’s a one-time action, and it’s a necessity because humans are dumb and have allowed scammers to guide them through installing dodgy APKs.
We are globally asking for regulators to regulate big tech and this whole verification thing was Google’s attempt to quell that storm. Obviously the original plans weren’t acceptable but this really doesn’t seem like that big of a deal anymore, now that they’ve compromised.
I really don’t see the issue here that power users need to tap a few buttons and wait 24 hours once for each device. You don’t even need to leave developer options enabled, and you’ve still got ADB installation options if you urgently need an APK installed and you hadn’t previously gone through this flow.
The comparison to bootloaders is also a stretch. People in this Lemmy community are so quick to enflame and enrage themselves, it’s worse than Reddit…
Absolutely, no. I don’t want to jump hoops or follow complicated procedures and wait a day or longer to start using the apps I want to use on my device I paid with my bills.
If we are on the subject of app installation. Desktop users can already install any and all apps that they desire. Your malware scanner will warn you if you attempt to install a malicious software.
For those people who cannot think for themselves advanced protection mode already disables app installation not approved by play store. So, even this point is moot. Besides, if we let google do this they may add age verification like some social media websites.
The comparison to bootloaders is also a stretch. People in this Lemmy community are so quick to enflame and enrage themselves, it’s worse than Reddit…
Maybe, they have the foresight to see how much worse it can get. It started with the advanced protection setting a year ago. Later OEMs started to add restrictions to bootloader unlock methods. Some like samsung simply removed it with latest software updates.
This is so stupid. At this rate I will have to consider Linux powered phones before switching phones in the future.
Needing to wait and follow so many tedious steps to install apps I want, ugh.
This was how xiaomi started to limit bootloader unlocking to the current 3 months wait model.
There’s also a video by a google person in the mastodon toot saying how this is a positive change.
I switched over to the fairphone which is degoogled android, and it’s been honestly great. Linux phone has a way to go, mostly needing to be able to run android apps I think, but /e/OS is a good bridge
I could never use the fairphone after reading about how the leadership responded to grapheneos disclaiming their claims that it was a secure device.
Instead of rebuking their statements, the founder resorted to personal attacks on the the leadership of grapheneos and reiterated the false information that the graphene project had.
Until i had read that I had a very positive mentality of the project but, that definitely has made me think twice about using anything related to /e/os in the future regardless if grapheneOS claims are true or false (they seem true)
Better than Google.
Not sure if you noticed but this is a one time process per phone.
I rely on xdrip+ for getting blood clucose measurements. That app is not on the play store.
So, in case I’ll loose my phone and have to buy one (or even just need to reset it) I’m 24hrs without blood glucose measurements…? Yeah that sounds great /s.
Install it using ADB which doesn’t adhere to the 24 hour waiting period.
I’m aware. But, why should I go through so many extra steps and wait 24hrs to install apps on a phone I paid. Also, who is to say they won’t increase the requirements later in the name of “security”?
This is not a thing on Linux and Windows. Why should it be on android?
@limerod I already jumped the ship and ordered a Jolla phone. Hope I made the right choice. But if you cannot get it for whatever reason, you can always get one of the supported devices and install Postmarket OS
I have an old redmi lying unused. I will have to experiment on it to understand the ROM flashing scene. PostmarketOS is a good project. Hopefully, the community interest will increase and make things more accessible for everyone.
Respectfully, grow up.
It’s a one-time action, and it’s a necessity because humans are dumb and have allowed scammers to guide them through installing dodgy APKs.
We are globally asking for regulators to regulate big tech and this whole verification thing was Google’s attempt to quell that storm. Obviously the original plans weren’t acceptable but this really doesn’t seem like that big of a deal anymore, now that they’ve compromised.
I really don’t see the issue here that power users need to tap a few buttons and wait 24 hours once for each device. You don’t even need to leave developer options enabled, and you’ve still got ADB installation options if you urgently need an APK installed and you hadn’t previously gone through this flow.
The comparison to bootloaders is also a stretch. People in this Lemmy community are so quick to enflame and enrage themselves, it’s worse than Reddit…
It ensures that non-power users stay in the clutches of Google.
Please reread the first three words of my previous message.
You’re not talking about growing up, you’re talking about giving up.
Call me when you’re older than 20 and realise how silly you sound.
I’m twice that age: you’re being an immature and a jerk. They’re not the one calling people names.
Absolutely, no. I don’t want to jump hoops or follow complicated procedures and wait a day or longer to start using the apps I want to use on my device I paid with my bills.
If we are on the subject of app installation. Desktop users can already install any and all apps that they desire. Your malware scanner will warn you if you attempt to install a malicious software.
For those people who cannot think for themselves advanced protection mode already disables app installation not approved by play store. So, even this point is moot. Besides, if we let google do this they may add age verification like some social media websites.
Maybe, they have the foresight to see how much worse it can get. It started with the advanced protection setting a year ago. Later OEMs started to add restrictions to bootloader unlock methods. Some like samsung simply removed it with latest software updates.