• kreskin@lemmy.world
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    Israel is a state. Wiping it off the map does not assume genocide. Your pushing that narrative is a zionist talking point. Israel CAN be wiped off the map without murder. Will you admit to that?

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      Israel CAN be wiped off the map without murder. Will you admit to that?

      Will I admit to that? What kind of question is that? Of course I will ‘admit to that’, since you’ve backed me into a rhetorical corner.

      Now, since we’re admitting things. How often do you think the historical use of the term is describing a non-violent process?

      Fuck Zionism, and Free Palestine but the language of erasure is just too close to genocide for my comfort, as cathartic as the thought may be in the moment, and I’m hesitant to normalize it.

      Other people don’t have that sensitivity and that’s fine. You do you.

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        What kind of question is that?

        Hasbara propoganda constantly states that giving any justice at all to Palestinians for the very real and very concrete harm they have endured risks inflicting harm against Israelis born to the area. It attempts to weigh an non life threatening existential harm to a small number of Isarelis against a very severe and concrete life threatening already in flight genocide of a massive number of innocents. You just parroted that so maybe ask yourself whether you are commenting for justice or not.

        How often do you think the historical use of the term is describing a non-violent process?

        Remediating a genocide only comes up so often but South Africa did it pretty well and thats the most modern addressing of a similar issue that I’m aware of. So no, I dont buy your suggestion that its a common understanding-- and even if it were (its not), its a harmful framing in this case that you shouldnt be trying to normalize to win lemmy points.

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          I’d love to know what you think Lemmy points are. I take the signals that are given, and so we’re done. Peace to you.