• RamRabbit@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    You put someone’s back against a wall and they do crazy things. The fault lies not in the one defending themself, but in the one attacking them.

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      If I threaten someone’s family and they go shoot up an elementary school, I don’t think I’m the one at fault there.

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          A) They don’t know that. That’s the problem with these weapons.

          B) Yes, actually they are. The current bot line is “War crimes are okay when you’re defending yourself,” and “fuck around and find out,” “then Russia should’ve left, vatnik,” or even “so what if we’re targeting kids, Russia shouldn’t be using human shields.” Please update your programming accordingly. Don’t forget to accuse me of being Russian, Pro-Russia, an evil Tankie, a bot, and or anything else because I’m calling out Russia and Ukraine instead of defaulting to blindly and naively defending Ukraine at all costs.

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    It’s not a terminator drone. It’s a mine.

    The most “intelligent” thing in those drones is an oldschool computer vision system dumber than what many missiles have.

    It sounds like splitting hairs and that doesn’t make it just, but I think it’s very important not to conflate ambush drones or whatever with anything “intelligent,” nor anything we call “AI” these days. All three things have basically nothing to do with each other.

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    As I said in the original post, this technology does indeed make you safer. Having better weapons than your enemy makes you safer from them, it’s just how it works.

    And when your enemy is Russia, who have proven time and time again they only respect force, I think that’s entirely fair.

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      That only works if your weapons can tell the difference between you and the enemy, given they’re automated and using extremely low power image recognition.

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        Often they are geofenced. ‘Go to this coordinate box and search for [list of targets]’

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          Except these specifically are not as they are hardened against GPS spoofing by simply disabling GPS when in auto-targeting mode, according to Ukraine.

          No one would have an issue with them if there were reasonable safeguards in place, like a human operator. But because Ukraine wants to entrust the killing of humans, any human since they’re relying on GAN-based AI which is flawed at best with super-computer level computation, much less the glorified raspberrypi these use, people do have an issue with it. Just like people have an issue with cluster munitions, anti-personnel mines, and chemical warfare.

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    I mean the worst it’s going to do is kill a few people. It is literally designed to kill people. So… Objective achieved.

    It may kill the wrong people, at some point that might be considered an acceptable risk if it is a reasonably low chance and you can monitor it’s actions as it goes on its way.