I give up discussing with you as it’s worthless and a waste of time. You can’t even understand half what I say and you make weird assumptions all the time

The whole “if you support workers so much why don’t you give them all your money” is just so stupid I had to call it here. It’s the equivalent of “if you want to support homelessness and orphans and abandoned pets why don’t you have them all in your home??? Gotchaaaa” which just tells me you have the mental capacity of a child.

Fix your backwards country and then you can stop being mad at people you don’t tip

Bye

Virtually all airlines charge for checked baggage tho. It’s not just budget airline. At least for flights that aren’t intercontinental

I tend to avoid travelling to the US

When I’m there I tip in some places (where there’s actual service involved for example. I’m not tipping anyone for literally picking something or a shelf, scanning it and handing it off to me on a counter) but definitely not 20%.

Regarding the tax it’s stupid but it might be less annoying to people because it’s not a choice. Paying the tax is not a problem. It exists for a good reason. What is a problem/stupid is that it’s hidden. That is not the case for tipping. And no I don’t want to further exploit or fuck workers. Quite the contrary. That’s why I advocate that it should be changed and that’s why if people don’t tip it might change.

If everyone stopped tipping tomorrow I guarantee you wages would change very quickly after. Yes it would hurt workers momentarily but its hints would improve after. Continuing to tip is just maintaining the status quo. You can keep waiting for things to change but they won’t as they haven’t for a long time. In fact it’s literally only getting worse with top % increasing.

A) is already a good reason but the bigger one is that everyone is paid a living wage and this stops being the responsibility of the consumer (which I argue it isn’t already and shouldn’t be). And this happens regardless of their age, looks, skin colour, size of tits, luck in their schedule, or which part of the restaurant they work in.

Tax not being included is also insane. We’re not complaining about that because if we were to complain about everything retarded about the US there wouldn’t be enough space in this forum. You guys are getting screwed and played. Focus on that instead of insulting people who refuse to take part in it. It tip is so mandatory that you will insult whoever doesn’t tip then put it in the price. Simple as

And then there’s also the fact that people that work less busy times or times where the people visiting the restaurant are less wealthy earn less per hour than their counter parts

Or how men or people of colour also earn less in tips.

Or how many times they aren’t even shared with back of the house staff.

It’s just a stupid system overall

So if nobody went to your store because they don’t want to tip the restaurant would close and you’d be fired.

You are being exploited by your boss. The people tipping you are subsidizing that exploitation. You want to be pissed, go be pissed at your boss or find another job.

As another user mentioned plenty of wait staff are in favour of tipping so also because of that it doesn’t change

And it’s a descriminative and unfair system. Theres plenty of data on it.

If people only went to restaurants that didn’t rely on tips in the US there would be no restaurants whatsoever and all workers would be out of a job.

If people go to the restaurant and don’t tip at some point the waiter can say to their boss that they either get a living wage or they can go to the restaurant thst doesn’t rely on tips (since from your comment they are so common).

From my European POV don’t trick me with fake prices. If the item I’m buying is presented to me with the cost of X then that’s what you should expect and demand of me. Tipping is extra, voluntary and based on above average service.

Shit when I was there last time I got asked for a tip for asking for an item that was off the shelf. It wasn’t even cooked or prepared in any way and it wasn’t even supposed to be consumed in that café. I wasn’t going to pay 20% on an expensive bag of coffee just because some waiter fetched it literally from the shelf behind him. It’s insane

Besides basically everything else runs off tips so it works. Or do you tip your landlord with the rent??

I think you mean cabin bag

Fortunately the EU is revoking that

Base price needs to be with a cabin bag + personal item. Then they can make a discount if one decides not to take the cabin bag but at least the comparison includes it from the start

Because tipping is inherently biased (there’s plenty of data that shows that it’s unfair af) plus the whole history of why it exists (read it up).

Pay your workers a living wage and get rid of the excessive tipping culture you have there. It’s also bleeding into our side of the pond

Since you are already calling people loser it tells me everything I need to know about you.

Cheers

Dont defend the fucker

Same with AI

Exactly

And they might even have lots of cheap labor from people that are starving

Watch them do it in Israel

Not totally

They are trying to go back

I don’t think that’s entirely true

Everyday society chooses to save a persons life and not another’s

Not explicitly but not so indirectly either

I think a billion id take because you can save thousands and thousands of people

I could live with that choice. Maybe in the end I’d feel so guilty that I wouldn’t even use the money for myself at all.

Which is an interesting debate as well. How does your answer change if you can’t use that money for you or known people at all, and only “for good”. Do you feel less guilty?

As another commenter said it’s just a different version of the trolley problem

Are you seriously comparing software engineers to members of a state sponsored terrorist police?

Because they’re working class like you and me?

He’s not saying that you shouldn’t unionize

He’s just saying that while it’s good, it’s not really a revolution so ideally you shouldn’t stop there

PS3 was on one the best consoles ever released tho

Maybe the library was meh (I didn’t really notice it) but from a hw it was peak. It was famously sold at a loss based on how much power it had