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  • No, the narrative just changed. Good luck convincing anyone the 2020 election wasn’t stolen ever again.

    “I told you. In 2020 we won all 50 states. Voter fraud by the millions. I was saying it all along. But we worked hard, we passed laws for election integrity, we watched the polls and they couldn’t cram their 10, 15 million votes into the boxes again. And look what happened. Instead of winning by 8 million votes, she lost by 6 million votes. Which is what should have happened last time.”

    This is the narrative I’ve been hearing. The voters that just stayed home simply never existed in the first place, as far as they’re concerned. He’s going to use this victory as proof of his claim that he should have won last time, voter fraud was rampant, and Democrats are cheaters. And it’s going to work.


  • For those who are saying “Trump can’t do this or can’t do that…”

    Yes. Yes he fucking can.

    The American people just voted, in a landslide, in favor of Trump’s agenda. And they voted to send more MAGA people to Congress to help him. They have full control of all 3 branches of government now, with comfortable majorities.

    The Supreme Court just said Trump is immune from prosecution for official acts, which they define as “whatever Trump says they are, unless we say otherwise.”

    There are no more “moderate” Republicans. Anyone who is not fully on board the Trump train has been weeded out. They are there to rubber stamp Project 2025. And there’s not a single one left who would dare to speak, let alone vote, against him.

    This is a “Do what I want and get away with it” administration. Trump will do what he wants. And if it’s not legal, Congress is there to make it legal. And if it’s unconstitutional, the Supreme Court is there to make it Constitutional.

    Understand this. There are no guardrails any more. They’ve all been removed. And rather than defend Democracy, the American people just handed them the tools to do it. Trump can do what he wants, will do what he wants, and he’ll do it to the thunderous applause of the American public.

    Authoritarianism is here. It’s covered in spray-tan. And it’s going to be sworn in in January.

    Remember, Arab-Americans. You refused to vote for Harris because of Gaza. When Israel ratchets up the genocide with Trump’s blessing, remember that you voted for this.

    Remember, Latino men who wouldn’t vote for Harris because she’s a woman. When you get caught up in the mass deportations or half of your friends get sent back to their home countries, remember that you voted for this.

    Same with the white guys. When you lose that cushy federal job because your answers on a random questionnaire weren’t MAGA enough, remember that you voted for this.

    When it’s your daughters bleeding out in a parking lot because of a national abortion ban, remember that you voted for this.

    You think you’re strapped for cash now? Trump’s new tariffs are going to cost you on average about $400 a month. You won’t get anything out of it. You’ll just be spending $400 a month on literally nothing because the guy you voted for doesn’t understand how tariffs work. And that doesn’t even count price hikes from the ripple effects of the tariffs and what it will do to the entire supply chain. Hope you’ve got a plan, because again…you fucking voted for this.

    And this doesn’t even take into account the fact that Republicans just got finished admitting that they were lying about Project 2025 all along. They know how unpopular it is. They know people see it as a power grab. THEY OPENLY ADMITTED FUCKING LYING TO YOU TO GET THEIR AGENDA PASSED. JD VANCE OPENLY ADMITTED LYING TO VOTERS IN ORDER TO SHAPE THE NARRATIVE. AND YOU STILL VOTED FOR THEM. And they couldn’t even wait 24 hours before taking the masks off and laughing directly in your face. Project 2025 is what we do know about. I’m fearful of what else they’ve been withholding that they plan on doing.

    Y’all are about to find out that the most expensive trip in your lives is going to prove to be the trip to the voting booth that you didn’t take. We’ll all be paying for that for decades to come.






  • And do you think there will be a single Republican willing to do anything about it?

    Mark my words, they will vote 100% in lockstep every single time. And if what Trump is doing is illegal (like that matters anyway), they’ll just write legislation to make it legal. Not a single one of them is going to even think about criticizing him, out of fear of either violence, political suicide, or both.

    The government will be crammed with unqualified hacks from top to bottom. The corruption will be open and blatant.

    And every single Republican senator will vote to confirm. Every single time.

    RFK in charge of healthcare. Musk in charge of spending. Aileen cannon is either getting the AG job or a Supreme Court seat. Whichever one she doesn’t get, Alina Hobba gets. Steve Bannon gets pardoned and gets communications director. Alex Jones is probably going to crawl out from whatever rock he crawled under too.

    They’ll all get jobs. The Senate will confirm them all. And far-right conspiracy theories will become official US policy.



  • Nightwingdragon@lemmy.worldtopolitics @lemmy.worldIs There Hope?
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    And yet the economy, and people’s fears about it, were the main reason Trump won. Until liberal elites like this guy get it through their thick fucking skulls that how the majority of people FEEL about the economy is INFINITELY more important than what the economic indicators say,

    I cannot stress how true this is, and it’s something I’ve been saying for years.

    If you are in an election, and your opponent is saying that monkeys are flying out of your ass and terrorizing the city, logic tells you you should ignore his crazy antics and tell him to go back to the park and preach to the pigeons. But here’s the problem. If 51% of the people you need to vote for you believe that monkeys flying out of your ass is their #1 problem, you had better come up with a plan to handle monkeys flying out of your ass. I mean sure, you can try using logic and reasoning to say “Look, there are no flying monkeys coming out of my ass and not a single one has been seen in the city.” But if those 51% really believe in flying monkeys, you’ll be using that logic during your concession speech.

    It’s one of those situations where you can do everything right and just lose anyway. Kamala Harris just found that out the hard way.






  • Because people were unwilling to vote for a black woman president. It’s that simple.

    • There are estimates of as many as 15 million former Biden voters who opted to sit this election out, knowing full well that doing so is a de-facto vote for Trump.
    • Latino men, and men in general, voted overwhelmingly for Trump.
    • Abortion issues fared better than Harris in virtually every state where it was on the ballot.
    • Harris underperformed almost universally across the country, to the point where New York, New Jersey, and California were all much closer than they should have been.

    This tells me that it wasn’t the policies. People just didn’t want Kamala Harris. Maybe because she’s black. Or Indian. Or a woman. Or a former prosecutor. Or some combination of the above. But whatever the reason was, people felt so strongly about saying “Not Kamala Harris” that they stayed home knowing full well they were de-facto voting for Trump in the process.

    Trump didn’t “win” this election, in that he got virtually the same votes he got last time. Kamala Harris lost this election because Democrats sent a very clear message that they are so against Kamala Harris that they were willing to hand the Presidency and the entirety of Congress instead of voting for her. This wasn’t just a loss. This was a “Fuck YOU, in particular” sent right at Harris.

    I firmly believe it was a combination of her race and male voters’ unwillingness to vote for a woman under any circumstances.




  • I’m not saying you’re necessarily wrong. But Trump won by far more than Stein pulled away from Harris (Outside of maybe Michigan). Even if she did court those votes, it probably wouldn’t have mattered.

    But last night wasn’t the result of a political miscalculation that they realized in hindsight. She underperformed when compared to Biden by roughly 10%. 8-10 million Democrats that voted last time opted out this time. That’s a shellacking. 8-10 million people said “I’m not going to vote for Trump, but I’d first step aside and let Trump win anyway over voting for Harris.” There was nothing she could have done to win them over. Her campaign was doomed from the start. She just didn’t know it at the time.


    • She absolutely crushed Trump at the debate
    • Her rallies were drawing far more people than Trump’s
    • She had A-list star power (Beyonce, Julia Roberts, Taylor Swift, etc.) actively endorsing her
    • She took over a race where Biden was down by 5%+ and losing ground daily to at least making it competitive
    • She only had 107 days to work with.

    It proved to not be enough. The people who were coming to her rallies were apparently all people who were going to vote for her anyway; the size of the rallies only gave the illusion that her campaign was attracting more voters. And with so many Democrats actively choosing to stay home rather than vote at all, it seems like nothing she did would have mattered anyway. But given the crap she had to work with, she ran a near-flawless campaign. She had no way of knowing that it just didn’t matter.


  • Something to keep in mind.

    Trump didn’t win a significant number of new voters. He kept his base, which is roughly the size of what it was in 2020.

    The problem was that Harris lost voters. In droves. Nationwide. And she took a lot of winnable downballot candidates with her. And I’m not even saying that to blame her. She ran a magnificent campaign while Trump was most noted for saying “They’re eating the dogs!”. So why did she still lose, and lose so hard? Because Democrats stayed home. Roughly about 10% of them overall, nationwide. Sure, some of them stayed home or voted 3rd party to protest Gaza, especially in Michigan. But the real story is that she underperformed so badly nationwide. I mean, for the love of God, New Jersey was competitive. That call about Iowa possibly going blue is going to be up there with “Dewey defeats Truman” in terms of political misfires. She severely underperformed with men and Latinos, especially Latino men. Which means this: 8-10 million people couldn’t stomach voting for Trump, but they’d rather passively hand over the country to Trump vs. voting for a black woman. Whether the problem they have is the fact that she’s black, female, or both is irrelevant. But the message they sent was clear. “We don’t want Trump, but we’d rather step back and just let Trump take the country rather than vote for her.”

    The problems with bigotry in this country go much deeper than some people are willing to admit, and Harris just found that out the hard way. As far as the voting base is concerned, voting for Obama was a mistake that they will not repeat again, and they just proved that by handing Trump everything he wanted on a silver platter instead.

    We can’t even say that it’s an outsized minority any more. A majority of the people in this country just spoke up and said that they either want the racism and bigotry or are at least willing to put up with it.

    Trump won the election not because Democrat voters said “Trump!”, but because they said “Not Harris.”


  • Do not underestimate the allure of a man who offers you a boogeyman to blame all your problems on, while promising you that only he can stop it. That allure is very difficult for many people to overcome. One of the other problems with it is that even if they do see the consequences of their choices, it’s just as easy for Trump to convince them that those problems are the boogeyman’s fault too. It doesn’t have to make sense, and Trump doesn’t care if it does as long as it keeps the rubes in line and focusing their anger on anyone else but him.

    This is a cult following. Any attempt to show them that their problems were caused by Trump will only cause them to MAGA harder.