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  • Again I agree, and I don’t think NATO should withhold or restrict aid and training if Ukraine don’t issue a statement.

    And I agree that looking back over targets hit between Ukraine and Russia it is clear as day that Ukraine IS holding to the high standard in place by NATO members and is targeting only military targets.

    The issue is that in the political sphere Russia and their useful idiots and apologists only need one example to try and smear the story into false “well both sides did it” narrative which you then have to pull out the long list and start going through it i.e. it takes more time to disprove a lie than to say it.

    If, as it is most likely the case, Ukraine accidentally hit a random tower block then said “whoops, missed the target there, but shit happens in war, it was a guidance failure / got shot down by air defence and crashed / whatever” it provides a quick response to the story the Kremlin will try and spin out of it add to the list of examples you gave how Ukraine treats civilians vastly better than Russia.

    I don’t see the downside of doing this. The Kremlin wouldn’t know how to respond.



  • This is true but if it wasn’t intentional Ukraine needs to release a statement if that is the case because:

    1. Russia would never admit to fault and it shows Ukraine is committed to upholding the Geneva convention and therefore has the moral high ground.

    2. That statement to Russian non-combatants would go a long way to winning the hearts and minds of the Russian populace. We can argue ethics and complicity of the Russian population in this war all day and night but the “enemy” treating them with more respect than Putin would make the Kremlin’s propaganda department sweat buckets.