As a data analyst with an Econ Degree and specialization in Econometrics:

Data and graphs and tables and lists mean nothing to anyone other than nerds, people need a narrative.

As a person who also has a Poli Sci degree:

Uh, the same, but with much more evidence.

Please, stop teasing, my PiHole can only handle so much!

Your idiot noises have no power over me, you contemptible boffin.

You aren’t worth explaining anything further to, such is the density of your thick skull, such is the extent of the gaping, cavernous void present in the part of your mind where relevant contextual information should be.

If you must pester me further, my server admin tutoring rate is $100 per hour, if you can’t afford the cost, just admit you’re lost.

I mean yeah, technically there will be some EU member states with different guidelines (due to different id/privacy laws) where maybe yes, a few of them could theoretically maybe be pumped up by a bot.

But uh, for some thing… you’d need a fairly well done bot net to even kind of pull that off for long.

As in like, a new and convincingly distinct bot/ip to burn for each signature, that is actually an ip that makes geo sense for the person/real world address it is spoofing…

As you say: basic ip logging.

If its all coming from… a single, or small number of ips… assuming the EU is at least as competent of a server admin as I am, yeah, that’s gonna look pretty fuckywucky in the logs, probably get noticed within 24 hours max.

And yes, I also seriously doubt there would not be some kind of verification of signees at at least some level, that would be initiated after all the thresholds are passed.

But its wildly innacurate to portray this as if… oh yeah any idiot vibe coder could just drill this up to whatever number after 30 minutes.

That was the way the internet worked back in 2006, or how stupid say Twitter polls are now.

Not the same level of inept incompetence going on with EU government websites.

You don’t get it.

What happens if you try to just brute force guess at a bunch of possible credit card numbers and addresses and names in some kind of online store?

After maybe a couple of tries, 30 seconds or less of that… the system is rejecting your bullshit fake numbers everytime, and after enough, it auto ip bans you, sends an email to the security admin team, and your journey to getting a chat from INTERPOL or the FBI or what not has now officially begun.

This system doesn’t just accept any old random bullshit you give it.

It is not a random slapdash online poll.

Its only going to count up on that total signatures count if the system actually verifies the info you put in as being consistent with an actual, real, specific person in the system.

I again repeat: You are an idiot.

And I use idiot specifically: you are not only drastically misinformed, but determined, and seem to think very dangerous actions… are not dangerous… you think very unfeasible methods… are feasible.

Its generally always the same problem with any kind of laser, maser, whatever variant of a beam of intense energy of some frequency:

They require stupendous amounts of energy, and if your platform is mobile, that means batteries.

Batteries that are big, heavy, and tend to immolate like a burning cybertruck at fucking 1800 F or what not if structurally comprimised.

We still have yet to get reliable, hardy, high energy dense batteries to a point where it doesn’t either massively weigh down your platform, or require some absurdly expensive production process for a more advanced battery, because we only know how to make ‘can test its properties in a lab’ volumes, not ‘actually industrial scale mass manufacturing’ levels.

They make kinda sense on say, a naval mounted rail gun… they do not downscale to truck, tank, infantry scale.

Like you could maybe make a giant rail gun tank with current tech. Maybe.

Problem is it would be ~70% battery by mass, weigh ~250 tons, be able to fire maybe… 5, 10 times? and if basically anything pens the armor, you now have an inferno that will burn for 12 to 24 hours, likely into a slag that actually burns or digs a hole a foot or two into the ground, roughly shaped like its foot print.

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You are an idiot.

No you cannot fill in any number you want.

This is an official EU webportal for formal citizens initiatives petitions.

Like, ok, I guess you could just spam it with a bot/script, and then INTERPOL comes after you for fucking with an official government website, potentially hundreds or thousands of counts of attempted impersonation / identity theft and lying on a government/legal document.

Like sure, go do a DDOS on I dunno, whitehouse.gov, or your US’s state’s unemployment assistance application web portal.

Those are approximately equivalently stupid things to do.

I repeat: You are an idiot.

Hope you can handle the legal fees for breach of patent law, OP.

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Hey yo, sup.

https://spectrum.ieee.org/boeing-files-patent-for-electromagnetic-arc-generator-to-protect-against-explosive-shockwaves

Yeah looks to me like you’re using just a tiny fraction, just a specialized version of what we patented over a decade ago, nothing novel, nothing distinct, just a specific operating mode of our tech.

We can serve you with the lawsuit now, or we can call in a welfare check on your lifeless body within 72 hrs, your choice.

To be honest, neither did I… and I may have accidentally replied to the wrong comment, could have sworn someone was asking ‘why line go up so fast now’.

Oopsie!

Man what the fuck are you talking about, it requires an EU, country specific verification document(s)/id(s), or the intraEU digital ID to verify you are an actual real person who lives where you say you do.

Examples:

Estonia

Portugal

Poland

… etc.

OMG yes, open source all hardware drivers within say 1-5 years of a particular model getting retired?

Now there’s a dream, haha.

It flipped around because the founder of the movement, Ross, of AccursedFarms on youtube… released a video giving a status report…

And spending a good deal of the video explaining how Thor, PirateSoftware on youtube… has basically been making up bullshit and spreading nonsense about SKG for months now, actively campaigning against SKG, again, based almost entirely on him jumping to hysterical, catastrophic conclusions without factual basis

After that video… basically every single AngloSphere Gamer Youtuber has been putting out videos spreading the SKG messsge, and dogpiling on Thor for being a confused, overconfident narcissist… and Thor is now double triple quadrupling down with ‘im the real victim’ and other such tactics often employed by manipulative narcissists facing the revelation of their public persona as essentially entirely hypocritical.

EDIT: Also, as of right now, I’m seeing 723k…

Which is roughly +20k in only 6 hours from the time this OP was made.

EDIT 2:

If you’ve ever heard of, or seen the Freeman’s Mind series… yeah, that’s Ross, basically being Freeman’s internal monologue, and turning the entirety of Half Life into an action comedy bonanza.

He had more recently been attempting to get through all of HL2 this way as well, in addition to doing esoteric game reviews… untill he got so pissed about Ubisoft being able to just murder The Crew, and what is going on with all games in terms of consumer rights… that he started the SKG movement, and hasn’t had much time to work on his other stuff as much.

No no, please, do a Nader, be a Bull Moose.

This’ll be great!

He’d draw what, a 90/10, 80/20 split of Rep to Dem voters, as well as the truly brain dead of the independents?

Please Musk.

Absolutely do this thing that if it worked would guarantee your failure, and would make it much easier to radicalize the Dem party after their most corporate of corporate donors leave them for you.

Don’t back out! This isn’t Twitter again, put your back into it!

You just cherry picked what I said so that you could continue mischaracterize what I am saying, by continuing to say I am or support thing I am not and do not, characterize a personal anecdote and direct answer to a direct question as reasoning.

Like I explicitly gave you my reasoning and you just ignore it and say I have none.

Its especially insane that you say I was knee jerk reacting.

I took almost an hour to write that out, with intention.

It is also insane to say that my worldview is based on religious indoctrination.

To the contrary, it is largely based on a rejection of religious indoctrination.

Formalization of child marriage is one of the most horrible things that religions, or variants of them, of all kinds, all over the world, do.

But by the same logic, it can or could also be very exploitative of boys… its just that such societies that go for a child bride norm are almost always patriarchal, though i am sure many men also do not appreciate being forced into marriages.

It perpetuates a concept of women as property, not people, and normalizes and reinforces their subjugation and inherently inferior, 2nd class nature.

I struggle to comprehend the mental pretzels you must be brain bending in order to earnestly and genuinely believe all of the things you are saying, you are terrible at argumentative rhetoric and it is obvious you are being disingenuous.

You are so badly mischaracterizing what I said that I actually have to consider whether or not English is your first language, or perhaps your reading skills aren’t far beyond middle school.

Finally… yes, a larger age gap is generally much more acceptable… as the age of both partners increases.

You seem to not grasp the concept that a 25 yo and a 30 yo is pretty normal, a 40 yo and a 30 yo is… a bit weird but could work… a 35 yo and a 45 yo less weird, as they are both older…

…but a 17 yo and a 27 yo is not ok, a 20 yo and a 15 yo is not ok.

Are you really saying 14 states have legalized pedophilia?

Yes, asterisk.

Asterisk:

Unless those laws specifically have something like… you as a 16 yo can consent to sex with someone 16, 17, 18, some cutoff age after which it goes back to not being ok, then yes.

(I’m fairly confident a good number of those state laws do include some kind of consideration of that)

The age differential matters.

Once it gets too much, its no longer two post-puberty kids exploring their sexuality, the difference in maturity and social status becomes manipulative and exploitative.

Do you even remember how it is to be 16?

Yes.

I was interested in girls my age, +/- one year.

Lost my virginity to a 17 yo girl, one grade above me, not my teacher, 10 years older.

When I was 26? When I am now 36?

Uh yeah, still interested in women roughly my age, though the age range has widened a bit as I get older… doesn’t get anywhere near 16 though, more like +/- 5 at 36, +/- 3 at 26.

My sister has been happily married to her husband who is 15 years older than her for 30+ years, are you saying my brother in law is a pedophile because of the age difference?

Assuming your sister, at age 16, married a 31 year old… uh yes absolutely that’s disgusting.

You are judgemental and pushing your norms on other people.

Pushing my norms, no.

I’m expressing my opinion and stances, not mandating everyone else follow them.

I find your sister and her husband’s relationship to have a disgusting origin, but I’m not going to advocate your brother in law be jailed.

That would be pushing my norms.

Judgemental? Oh sure, absolutely, guilty as charged.

And it’s disgusting you have so many upvotes!

Well now who’s judgemental?

Its the internet. People are allowed to have strong opinions.

I don’t agree with yours, you don’t agree with mine.

This is… arguably the entire point of an online discussion system?

Are you also considering LGBT immoral?

Absolutely not, no, frankly I have no clue how you could even think that would be a reasonable other position to expect me to hold…

I am queer lol, I’ve dated a trans woman, I’ve dated an ambi-gender person, bi women… I’ve gotten handsy and made out with bi and gay guys a few times… I seem to mostly go for a feminine presenting person, or a person with feminine aspects… but I’m considerably more flexible with that than your stereotypical straight man.

LGBT relationships are an entirely different thing than massive age gap relationships, I again have no clue how that seems like a reasonable assumption to jump to.

It woukd be weird and creepy if a 26 yo woman had a romantic or sexual relationship with a 16 yo girl, if a 26 yo man had a relationship with a 16 yo boy.

therapy does not have to be expensive.

But it is though.

Your medicaid patients?

Poor. By definition.

Sure they might not pay a copay, but they pay for it in gas money to get to that visit, their barely running car now breaking down from visiting you, time off work they can’t really afford, time filling out reams and reams of fucking paperwork to be able to qualify for anything, likely when they’re already in a mentally comprimised condition to some extent… its all very stressful.

Which is very bad for mental health.

we have no reason to believe it would be any better than a paper journal and a CBT worksheet.

And the part you don’t want to admit (at least here) is that … that’s actually quite helpful in and of itself for a lot of people.

Have a few sessions with a live, in person therapist, to teach you CBT, give you the paperwork, walk you through it.

Not all, but many people can take it by themselves from there, and not need to keep wasting time and energy on continually requalifying for medicaid, getting to and from psych appointments, dealing with scheduling delays and unavailability, etc.

Yep, a lot of people are also helped by basically just having someone to be able to talk to and feel heard.

But… that’s often doable by just making either a friend or even casual acquaintance with someone who is capable of, and has the capacity for reflexive empathy.

Much less stress and paperwork involved there.

And also yes, some people with much more serious issues need much more serious help.

Unfortunately, the entire medical system in the US is utterly broken, and the only real solution is having a system that … isn’t broken, so that comprehensive screening and diagnosis is easily available without huge delays and costs… and more broadly, those people need to have the first two levels of maslow’s hierarchy of needs taken care of.

But currently our society basically just takes those people and throws them into the streets, evicts them, forecloses on them, incarcerates them.

There simply is no systemic way to help those people without major systemic changes… and those ain’t happening, they’re moving in the opposite direction.

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The problem with LLMs as therapy is that they are wildly overconfident, agreeable to the point of encouraging delusions and dangerous behavior, they hallucinate facts that aren’t real… and they are not actually capable of legitimate critical thinking or reasoning.

They also will not introduce you to concepts you have never heard of before which you do not know are or could be very useful, unless you directly ask them to do that, and even then… they obviously are not experts themselves and may suggest dubious ideas.

But also, at the same time… people often do form what they will describe as meaningful relationships with an LLM. So… its not that ‘it doesn’t happen’, its that its a psuedorelationship, a fascimile of a relationship, lacks in person interaction, a real human modulating their intonation, having micro expressions, body language, etc etc.

A pedophile.

Like literally, by definition.

10 year age gap there, 26 yo woman vs 16 yo dude.

Flip the sexes around, that’s a pedophile, no argument at all.

Other than from people who really, really really feel its necesarry to ‘well actually you mean ephebophile’.

Grooming is kinda the whole modus operandi here, they get off on the power dynamic, in every way you can interperet ‘get off’ and ‘power dynamic’.

Damn, didn’t know that.

I’m already planning on moving to MN for many other reasons, there’s another one.