But they’re fucking good quality. Anyone can see that. So what’s the problem?
I like Android 'cos I like dicking about with it. Some people don’t want to dick about with their phones, they want to do other stuff that could be more interesting.
I carry 2 phones because I have a government job, so if any work is done on my phone it becomes subject to Open Records requests. If I have to carry 2 phones I might as well have both operating systems.
So my personal phone is Android and my work phone is an iPhone.
I don’t understand how people prefer iPhones. The hardware is nice, but the OS is horrible. They came up with some neat stuff in 2008, but it feels like they haven’t improved much since then. Even informing the greater flexibility of Android - it’s just easier to use. Hell, just turning wifi or Bluetooth on and off is a hassle on the iPhone versus a single swipe and tap on Android.
Hell, just turning wifi or Bluetooth on and off is a hassle on the iPhone versus a single swipe and tap on Android.
What on earth are you talking about? I’m not going to claim Apple invented it (because they likely stole it from another os like android) but they’ve had the single swipe down control panel on iOS to turn off Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, airplane mode, etc for like a decade+. I have Apple devices, and trust me, there’s plenty to shit on without making stuff up.
What he’s talking about is probably that turning off WiFi via quick settings or whatever it’s called doesn’t actually turn off WiFi, you still have to proceed all the way to the settings app.
I owned and used a iPhone xs for a number of years. I can assure you that pressing the little WiFi icon in the control centre does the same thing as my Samsung galaxy s21 5g and various other android devices previous to the iPhone xs does and if all fails then you can always turn on airplane mode
That may be true, I used to be an iPhone Xs user before my Pixel 7, and it used to drive me crazy seeing blue WiFi icon turning white, as opposed to turning the module off completely in the settings, when the icon becomes transparent.
It is nitpicking though, for sure. I have tons of other, more significant complaints about iOS, I was just clarifying what it may have been that the other person was complaining about.
Edit: Moreover, until you deliberately tell your phone to NOT automatically turn on WiFi after an hour or two, it will decide for itself that the time has come and it can drain your battery now.
The problem is that they only disconnect. They don’t actually turn off. You have to go into the settings for that.
When you toggle the Wi-Fi or Bluetooth buttons in Control Center, your device immediately disconnects from Wi-Fi and Bluetooth accessories. Both Wi-Fi and Bluetooth will continue to be available
Turning off WiFi is as easy as gesturing to the control centre then clicking the WiFi button it’s as easy as android devices where you swipe down from where the notch is and click on the WiFi button
I used an iPhone xs for about a year and a half before clumsily dropping my phone and it sadly coming to its demise and I’ve never had this happen to me. Prehaps I’m lucky. Although knowing lemmy someone probably just made this shit up
I think the problems include the fact that an actual apple computer starts at 1000 and going higher than 8GB of RAM and 256G of storage costs you another 1000 because hardware isn’t really modular and storage and ram are a huge tool of market segmentation.
Meanwhile a traditional desktop starts at $7000.
It’s like they have lifted everything but the absolutely cheapest market segments out of reach of virtually any normal folks.
As someone who does animation, apple has been terrible for work. Because they take forever to render CGI, compared to my personal gaming computer. Same thing with simple video editing. Having a powerful GPU is pretty nice for work. And because apple is overpriced. I’ve found gaming rigs that are cheaper and do a better job, on top of being more intuitive. Seriously I can’t do anything without the windows search bar. It’s really nice being able to just type in the settings I want to change. And have the OS take me directly there.
Pretty much this for me too. Switched to iphone because I no longer wanted to tinker, switched my work laptop to apple silicon because the battery life and performance is stellar.
Learned to be fine with mac os, do most things in terminal anyway. Will likely switch to asahi linux when it is stable enough that I don’t have to tinker, because tinkering gets in the way of actually getting things done in my situation.
Also, being real: running LLMs on my mac is great. 128gb of unified memory basically means 120gb of vram. It’s absurdly expensive, but nothing quite like it exists in the market right now.
Idk every apple product I’ve touched always felt pretty thin and flimsy. Don’t even get me started on Mac mice. They’re so cheaply made you don’t get a second mouse button. The Mac books are so fragile you can break them by looking at them wrong. The only time I’ve ever seen a iPhone that doesn’t have a crack in the screen is when they are brand new. Maybe I’m a bit of a farmer for considering rigidity the definition of high quality, but god how do one button mice feel good.
High quality until you drop it once and the entire screen shatters. High quality until your lightning cable breaks. High quality until planned obsolescence renders it unusable. Nah Apple products are pure ass lmao, literally no reason to ever buy one unless it’s got some exclusive artsy software you really like (and even then there’s prob something just as good for windows or Linux). As far as bang for your buck goes I can’t think of a worse choice than Apple in any given field
I tried Android with the S10 for a little over a year. It felt too clunky and everything I wanted to customize would have required jailbreaking, which feels too much like work for me. I went back to iPhone after that.
Android User here. Never owned any Apple device.
But they’re fucking good quality. Anyone can see that. So what’s the problem?
I like Android 'cos I like dicking about with it. Some people don’t want to dick about with their phones, they want to do other stuff that could be more interesting.
I carry 2 phones because I have a government job, so if any work is done on my phone it becomes subject to Open Records requests. If I have to carry 2 phones I might as well have both operating systems.
So my personal phone is Android and my work phone is an iPhone.
I don’t understand how people prefer iPhones. The hardware is nice, but the OS is horrible. They came up with some neat stuff in 2008, but it feels like they haven’t improved much since then. Even informing the greater flexibility of Android - it’s just easier to use. Hell, just turning wifi or Bluetooth on and off is a hassle on the iPhone versus a single swipe and tap on Android.
What on earth are you talking about? I’m not going to claim Apple invented it (because they likely stole it from another os like android) but they’ve had the single swipe down control panel on iOS to turn off Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, airplane mode, etc for like a decade+. I have Apple devices, and trust me, there’s plenty to shit on without making stuff up.
What he’s talking about is probably that turning off WiFi via quick settings or whatever it’s called doesn’t actually turn off WiFi, you still have to proceed all the way to the settings app.
I owned and used a iPhone xs for a number of years. I can assure you that pressing the little WiFi icon in the control centre does the same thing as my Samsung galaxy s21 5g and various other android devices previous to the iPhone xs does and if all fails then you can always turn on airplane mode
That may be true, I used to be an iPhone Xs user before my Pixel 7, and it used to drive me crazy seeing blue WiFi icon turning white, as opposed to turning the module off completely in the settings, when the icon becomes transparent.
It is nitpicking though, for sure. I have tons of other, more significant complaints about iOS, I was just clarifying what it may have been that the other person was complaining about.
Edit: Moreover, until you deliberately tell your phone to NOT automatically turn on WiFi after an hour or two, it will decide for itself that the time has come and it can drain your battery now.
The problem is that they only disconnect. They don’t actually turn off. You have to go into the settings for that.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/102412
Turning off WiFi is as easy as gesturing to the control centre then clicking the WiFi button it’s as easy as android devices where you swipe down from where the notch is and click on the WiFi button
Except when I swipe down and it opens the notification window or Siri shortcuts or just a blank screen with a clock on it.
It’s not consistent.
I used an iPhone xs for about a year and a half before clumsily dropping my phone and it sadly coming to its demise and I’ve never had this happen to me. Prehaps I’m lucky. Although knowing lemmy someone probably just made this shit up
Nailed it. My thoughts exactly
I think the problems include the fact that an actual apple computer starts at 1000 and going higher than 8GB of RAM and 256G of storage costs you another 1000 because hardware isn’t really modular and storage and ram are a huge tool of market segmentation.
Meanwhile a traditional desktop starts at $7000.
It’s like they have lifted everything but the absolutely cheapest market segments out of reach of virtually any normal folks.
These are the things i look at when reviewers talk about apple “taking gaming serious now” and im just like what.
As someone who does animation, apple has been terrible for work. Because they take forever to render CGI, compared to my personal gaming computer. Same thing with simple video editing. Having a powerful GPU is pretty nice for work. And because apple is overpriced. I’ve found gaming rigs that are cheaper and do a better job, on top of being more intuitive. Seriously I can’t do anything without the windows search bar. It’s really nice being able to just type in the settings I want to change. And have the OS take me directly there.
Apple has that break the lense on a camera and your phone starts to brick it’s self as it thinks it’s been repaired by someone who’s not apple
Pretty much this for me too. Switched to iphone because I no longer wanted to tinker, switched my work laptop to apple silicon because the battery life and performance is stellar.
Learned to be fine with mac os, do most things in terminal anyway. Will likely switch to asahi linux when it is stable enough that I don’t have to tinker, because tinkering gets in the way of actually getting things done in my situation.
Also, being real: running LLMs on my mac is great. 128gb of unified memory basically means 120gb of vram. It’s absurdly expensive, but nothing quite like it exists in the market right now.
Idk every apple product I’ve touched always felt pretty thin and flimsy. Don’t even get me started on Mac mice. They’re so cheaply made you don’t get a second mouse button. The Mac books are so fragile you can break them by looking at them wrong. The only time I’ve ever seen a iPhone that doesn’t have a crack in the screen is when they are brand new. Maybe I’m a bit of a farmer for considering rigidity the definition of high quality, but god how do one button mice feel good.
High quality until you drop it once and the entire screen shatters. High quality until your lightning cable breaks. High quality until planned obsolescence renders it unusable. Nah Apple products are pure ass lmao, literally no reason to ever buy one unless it’s got some exclusive artsy software you really like (and even then there’s prob something just as good for windows or Linux). As far as bang for your buck goes I can’t think of a worse choice than Apple in any given field
I fucking hope it is good quality for that price.
I tried Android with the S10 for a little over a year. It felt too clunky and everything I wanted to customize would have required jailbreaking, which feels too much like work for me. I went back to iPhone after that.