This is how conspiracy theories ought to work. Perfectly fine to raise a question, and dismissed when you get the answer. Absent is the rampant speculation and unfounded claims.
It’s because they find evidence to support their truth, instead of formulating a theory based in the evidence. I’ve heard it described with the circle analogy.
Imagine the absolute truth is a circle, but we don’t know what the shape is. By doing research, we find out certain facts as points on that circle. We can then draw straight lines between those points, and draw a shape that’s as close to the absolute truth as we can get, with the data we have. Further research and discoveries place more dots, sometimes falling outside of the lines we’ve drawn. So we redraw the shape more and more, always increasing towards that circle. That’s how science works.
Conspiracy theorist do the opposite. They draw a random shape (that’s nowhere near a circle, like a star), and then go out to find proof that fits on that shape. Some proof is correct - it just happens to fall on the same lines as the circle. Others are completely out there, aligning with their shape, but not with the circle (because it’s not relevant to the truth). And if they do find proof that fits on the circle, but not on their star, it’s ignored.
I like debates but most conspiracy debates are absolutely insufferable because of this. No matter how many points get completely debunked, they move on to the next one, and even worse, continue spreading the debunked points afterwards. They don’t give a shit about science or the truth.
That doesn’t include R&D, and very notably doesn’t include things the life support backpack or helmet either. If you add those, you come to something like nearly 2 million in 1967 money, or nearly 19 million in modern money.
Best I could find were a 5 million and 100m dollar order for the 60ish suits plus 20m for what I’m guessing are 60 more PLSS units, though I’ll admit there might be fewer of those. Inflation happens and you’re on my number. But if you have a better source than someone said it on a forum once, I’ll gladly accept it.
Regardless, it was crazy expensive, and shouldn’t be swapped out with the other. The point stands
Custom tailored suits that have to fit you perfectly so you don’t die. And might have to put them on very fast in an emergency, in low or zero g, with potential limited light. Big, high contrast, labels are probably helpful.
Also, these things were tested and iterated on repeatedly. If something is on that suit, it’s often because it’s solving a problem that was identified in a past test.
For the curious.
The boots have two layers. This boot is the inner layer.
This is how conspiracy theories ought to work. Perfectly fine to raise a question, and dismissed when you get the answer. Absent is the rampant speculation and unfounded claims.
I mean, I think that’s just called science
It’s because they find evidence to support their truth, instead of formulating a theory based in the evidence. I’ve heard it described with the circle analogy.
Imagine the absolute truth is a circle, but we don’t know what the shape is. By doing research, we find out certain facts as points on that circle. We can then draw straight lines between those points, and draw a shape that’s as close to the absolute truth as we can get, with the data we have. Further research and discoveries place more dots, sometimes falling outside of the lines we’ve drawn. So we redraw the shape more and more, always increasing towards that circle. That’s how science works.
Conspiracy theorist do the opposite. They draw a random shape (that’s nowhere near a circle, like a star), and then go out to find proof that fits on that shape. Some proof is correct - it just happens to fall on the same lines as the circle. Others are completely out there, aligning with their shape, but not with the circle (because it’s not relevant to the truth). And if they do find proof that fits on the circle, but not on their star, it’s ignored.
I like debates but most conspiracy debates are absolutely insufferable because of this. No matter how many points get completely debunked, they move on to the next one, and even worse, continue spreading the debunked points afterwards. They don’t give a shit about science or the truth.
That’s quite interesting thanks for that mate
Neat, always wondered what the reason for this was
what a good suit
Why does they had their names on the clothes? Were they kindergarteners?
It’s a ~$700,000 space suit custom tailored for a single astronaut on a single mission. Why wouldn’t it have the astronaut’s name stitched into it?
Also, have you never seen a NASA/Air Force/Military uniform in general? They all wear their names somewhere.
Also, so you can quickly put on the correct suit, quickly, in pretty disorienting conditions.
Who shit in my suit!
That would be disorienting.
It’s a 700k suit to make in today’s money.
That doesn’t include R&D, and very notably doesn’t include things the life support backpack or helmet either. If you add those, you come to something like nearly 2 million in 1967 money, or nearly 19 million in modern money.
$700k was calculated assuming T&D and 2024 dollars, so you’re doubling down on math I already did.
The total budget for the suits in 1967 dollars was $100K/suit.
Best I could find were a 5 million and 100m dollar order for the 60ish suits plus 20m for what I’m guessing are 60 more PLSS units, though I’ll admit there might be fewer of those. Inflation happens and you’re on my number. But if you have a better source than someone said it on a forum once, I’ll gladly accept it.
Regardless, it was crazy expensive, and shouldn’t be swapped out with the other. The point stands
Custom tailored suits that have to fit you perfectly so you don’t die. And might have to put them on very fast in an emergency, in low or zero g, with potential limited light. Big, high contrast, labels are probably helpful.
Also, these things were tested and iterated on repeatedly. If something is on that suit, it’s often because it’s solving a problem that was identified in a past test.